Canada: The new Soviet Union

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Jailed father fighting to block gender transition of his child denied bail
- Erin Perse, The Post Millennial, 20 March 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... enied-bail

A father who is fighting in the family courts for the right to speak publicly in opposition to the gender transition of his child was denied bail in a hearing at Vancouver Supreme Court on Friday.

The court found him in contempt of previous orders which sought to restrain his speech with regard to the medical and social gender transition of his child by medical and legal authorities. The father opposes this process on the grounds that it is causing irreversible physical and psychological harm to his child.

This process of seeking to defend his child from iatrogenic medical harm—ordinarily something we would associate with positive parenting—has been characterised as "family violence" and harassment by the court and by the child's trans rights activist legal advisers.

In Canada, protective parenting is a criminal offence.

On March 16, the father surrendered to the court to be arrested for a hearing on a criminal charge of contempt of court. He was found to be in contempt and remanded to North Fraser Remand prison.

The father's lawyer, Carey Linde, made representations that the father "is not a criminal." Linde said the father is "a working class postman. He is in a labor union." Linde said that, by making this a criminal matter, Attorney General David Eby "is persecuting [the father] plain and simple."
The father will be remanded on bail until what the court, and the Attorney General for British Columbia, call a "trial" listed for five days starting on April 12, 2021, even though those dates are family—not criminal—proceedings.
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Apollonius wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:53 pm
Jailed father fighting to block gender transition of his child denied bail
- Erin Perse, The Post Millennial, 20 March 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... enied-bail

A father who is fighting in the family courts for the right to speak publicly in opposition to the gender transition of his child was denied bail in a hearing at Vancouver Supreme Court on Friday.

The court found him in contempt of previous orders which sought to restrain his speech with regard to the medical and social gender transition of his child by medical and legal authorities. The father opposes this process on the grounds that it is causing irreversible physical and psychological harm to his child.

This process of seeking to defend his child from iatrogenic medical harm—ordinarily something we would associate with positive parenting—has been characterised as "family violence" and harassment by the court and by the child's trans rights activist legal advisers.

In Canada, protective parenting is a criminal offence.

On March 16, the father surrendered to the court to be arrested for a hearing on a criminal charge of contempt of court. He was found to be in contempt and remanded to North Fraser Remand prison.

The father's lawyer, Carey Linde, made representations that the father "is not a criminal." Linde said the father is "a working class postman. He is in a labor union." Linde said that, by making this a criminal matter, Attorney General David Eby "is persecuting [the father] plain and simple."
The father will be remanded on bail until what the court, and the Attorney General for British Columbia, call a "trial" listed for five days starting on April 12, 2021, even though those dates are family—not criminal—proceedings.
Medically interfering with a child’s normal development is a horror, but also genuinely homophobic. That word is overused and misused, but sometimes homosexuality expresses itself very early. I can’t think of another word describing this insistence on drastic measures to avoid a biological/sexual orientation mismatch.

Conversion psychotherapy for kids is like aromatherapy in comparison to medical manipulation. Canada is denying this child the right to be authentically gay.
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Wow.

By comparison, do individuals charged with possession and use of illegal - unregistered firearms receive bail?
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 5:35 pm
Apollonius wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 3:53 pm
Jailed father fighting to block gender transition of his child denied bail
- Erin Perse, The Post Millennial, 20 March 2021
https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking- ... enied-bail

A father who is fighting in the family courts for the right to speak publicly in opposition to the gender transition of his child was denied bail in a hearing at Vancouver Supreme Court on Friday.

The court found him in contempt of previous orders which sought to restrain his speech with regard to the medical and social gender transition of his child by medical and legal authorities. The father opposes this process on the grounds that it is causing irreversible physical and psychological harm to his child.

This process of seeking to defend his child from iatrogenic medical harm—ordinarily something we would associate with positive parenting—has been characterised as "family violence" and harassment by the court and by the child's trans rights activist legal advisers.

In Canada, protective parenting is a criminal offence.

On March 16, the father surrendered to the court to be arrested for a hearing on a criminal charge of contempt of court. He was found to be in contempt and remanded to North Fraser Remand prison.

The father's lawyer, Carey Linde, made representations that the father "is not a criminal." Linde said the father is "a working class postman. He is in a labor union." Linde said that, by making this a criminal matter, Attorney General David Eby "is persecuting [the father] plain and simple."
The father will be remanded on bail until what the court, and the Attorney General for British Columbia, call a "trial" listed for five days starting on April 12, 2021, even though those dates are family—not criminal—proceedings.
Medically interfering with a child’s normal development is a horror, but also genuinely homophobic. That word is overused and misused, but sometimes homosexuality expresses itself very early. I can’t think of another word describing this insistence on drastic measures to avoid a biological/sexual orientation mismatch.

Conversion psychotherapy for kids is like aromatherapy in comparison to medical manipulation. Canada is denying this child the right to be authentically gay.

I agree with you:

At Quillette Circle is a post relating to the discussion of their recent article :

When sons become daughters: parents of transitioning boys speak out on their own suffering - Angus Fox, Quillette, 2 April 2021
https://quillette.com/2021/04/02/when-s ... suffering/


... which makes these points:
  • Big Pharma and medical; life long medical interventions. Now they can bill the military as well. Trumps trans ban was a medically based rule, not a bias.
  • Feminization/sterilization of the population. Nearly all trans kids will become sterile. The boys are castrated, the girls are subtracted from the ranks of lesbians who often would become mothers anyway. No one believes they are men anyways so its not a get for the man camp.
  • Homophobia: gay people are ackshually the opposite sex. So the new trans jibes with the old homophobia and we see trad families going with it on occasion - although straigh conservative men are the largest anti trans boys in girls sport group, but… they are Nazis. Some wacky Mormon moms are now onboard, effectively portaging their old school homophobia to the new trans homophobia, wiping out a generation of openly gay Mormon boys. Well done.
  • A deep well of PSTD and other traumatized men who try to escape their former persona with (partial) sexchange. They are often social media and real life weapons against feminists. Estrogen flooding testosterone receptors is deranging. Interestingly many of the most prominent, high performing MtFs appear to NOT be taking any hormones, or getting any surgeries: Rachel Levine, Lana Wachowski. They arent actually trans at all. They are cross dressers, fetishists.
  • Its a great tool to take out the “well meaning” “liberal” and “LibFem” moderates (not nearly revolutionary enough) by devastating their families and costing them thousands of dollars in psych and medical treatments.
  • Demanding a biological equivalence to 2+2=5, classic Commie mind control
  • Opening the door to Pedos. “Age play”, “MAPs”, “Love knows No Age” and other terms are normalized. There is an ol trope that childhood molestation causes homosexuality. Not true, but, every deranged hard leftist who was abused and seeks to normalize the continuation of the cycle by these means, that I have known, was abused.
  • Social media coercion, especially of girls. Bullying and conformity on steroids. The rise of straight, FtM early onset is a clue.

https://forum.quillette.com/t/when-sons ... g/22413/50
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Colonel Sun wrote: Fri Mar 26, 2021 6:15 pm Wow.

By comparison, do individuals charged with possession and use of illegal - unregistered firearms receive bail?
I had similar thoughts.

What is the age of consent in Canada?
Can you buy a gun legally in Canada at age 16?
Can you buy alcohol?
Can you vote at age 16?
Can you join the military?
Can you get married?

When a child becomes an adult is a question the US still has not answered.
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A maple leaf curtain descends on Canada

Canada must be a truly dangerous place to live.

https://thepostmillennial.com/trudeau-m ... -canadians
Trudeau minister says internet censorship bill will make Canadians 'safer'

"My job is to ensure the safety and security of the Canadian population," said the minister.
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"My job is to ensure the safety and security of the Canadian population," said the minister.

Guilbeault revealed that the legislation being tabled is the first step in creating a "safer environment for all people online and not just for a handful," regulating hurtful content beyond what is already covered by the Criminal Code, according to Blacklock's Reporter.

"With the legislation we will be tabling, it won’t matter whether or not the company is Canadian," said Guilbeault. "It won’t matter where the company is registered or where their servers are located."

"Once a publication is flagged it will have to be taken down within 24 hours of having it being flagged," he said. "There are not a lot of countries that are doing that right now."

"I think it’s going to be a really good remedy to a number of problems but it won’t solve everything," said Guilbeault. "One of the issues I’ve learned, looking at different models, is you shouldn’t try to tackle everything from the get-go."

Guilbeault said that hate speech will "definitely" be a part of the legislation being tabled, as well as other "online harms."
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Guilbeault also said that the bill will aid in maintaining the "social fabric of our society."

Keeping you safe online is one of my priorities in this government. Like you, we believe that no Canadian should suffer from online abuse without recourse. That’s why we will be introducing #OnlineHate legislation very soon. ? pic.twitter.com/H8wSHbmkJS— Steven Guilbeault @ ? (@s_guilbeault) January 25, 2021

Guilbeault has previously cited surveys by the Canadian Race Relations Foundation showing that 93 percent of Canadians "believe that online hate speech and racism are a problem" and 80 percent "want social media companies to be required to remove racist or hateful content within 24 hours."
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Guilbeault said "the conclusions of this survey are clear. Hate speech has no place in our society. It's time to step up against online hate. The numbers are disturbing, but they come as no surprise."

He continued, "Almost half of Canadians either have experienced or seen violent and hateful content online. Canadians want us to act and that's exactly why we intend to introduce legislation. Our approach will acquire online platforms to eliminate illegal content such as hate speech, terrorist and violent extremism, child pornography, and the non-consensual sharing of intimate images online."
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Thanks for posting, Doc.

Yeah, things are pretty draconian here these days.
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Apollonius wrote: Thu Apr 29, 2021 12:42 am Thanks for posting, Doc.

Yeah, things are pretty draconian here these days.
DO you think given how many places this is showing up that there is a widespread agenda?
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its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.
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noddy wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:27 am its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.
Amen.

Does seem to be a generational or local cultural "thang."

Big difference between those raised with "Sticks and stones can break my bones, but words can never hurt me!" and those raised with "The other day I got bludgeoned with an adjective! No stitches were required, but it's still a bit tender!"

I suspect the two different herds shall never find "common ground," especially in cyberspace!
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noddy wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:27 am its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.


The 'cycle of violence' I suffer from here is caused by trees: In summer there is the potential for forest fire. Our violent winter storms frequently cause some of them to crash. It's not safe out there. Maybe Mother Nature needs to be cancelled?
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I was surprised to see this:


Your free speech is at risk with Ottawa's push to regulate online content, experts warn
- Ryan Patrick Jones, CBC News, 30 April 2021
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/bill-c ... -1.6007192

The federal government is facing an uproar over controversial changes to a bill that would bring videos and other content posted to social media sites like YouTube under the purview of the country's broadcasting regulator.

The changes to Bill C-10 — made at the behest of Liberal MPs on the heritage committee — would allow the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) to regulate user-generated content uploaded to social media platforms, much as it regulates radio and TV content now.

The government says the changes apply only to professional content and are necessary to make wildly successful online streaming services and apps contribute to Canadian culture.

But critics argue they amount to an unjust infringement on the Charter of Rights' guarantee of free speech.


Unusually, they have even allowed comments, although as always, many have been 'deactivated'.
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Apollonius wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:39 pm
noddy wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:27 am its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.


The 'cycle of violence' I suffer from here is caused by trees: In summer there is the potential for forest fire. Our violent winter storms frequently cause some of them to crash. It's not safe out there. Maybe Mother Nature needs to be cancelled?
ironically the cancel culture people seem to always come from the places mother nature has been cancelled.

the morality of the apartment bound , permanent child who is scared of everything and turned passive aggression and inaction into a virtue, is the morality we will all live by, soon enough.

or, we live on the edges, in the forest, and ignore all that shite.
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noddy wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 am
Apollonius wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:39 pm
noddy wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:27 am its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.


The 'cycle of violence' I suffer from here is caused by trees: In summer there is the potential for forest fire. Our violent winter storms frequently cause some of them to crash. It's not safe out there. Maybe Mother Nature needs to be cancelled?
ironically the cancel culture people seem to always come from the places mother nature has been cancelled.

the morality of the apartment bound , permanent child who is scared of everything and turned passive aggression and inaction into a virtue, is the morality we will all live by, soon enough.

or, we live on the edges, in the forest, and ignore all that shite.
Well said. Finally, the internet and technology as a "Unifying Force of Harmony." Not sure why it took this long.....

It's all gonna be "sunshine and lollypops" or "ice cream"" from here on out.... by law.

Kinda like when parents breaking up a fight between their children by hitting both of them much harder than they could ever hit each other!!!!

"Spare the rod, spoil the child!"

"Quit your whining about how society should be more harmonious or I''ll give you some harmony to whine about!!" (tm)
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Simple Minded wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 12:10 pm
noddy wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 am
Apollonius wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:39 pm
noddy wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:27 am its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.


The 'cycle of violence' I suffer from here is caused by trees: In summer there is the potential for forest fire. Our violent winter storms frequently cause some of them to crash. It's not safe out there. Maybe Mother Nature needs to be cancelled?
ironically the cancel culture people seem to always come from the places mother nature has been cancelled.

the morality of the apartment bound , permanent child who is scared of everything and turned passive aggression and inaction into a virtue, is the morality we will all live by, soon enough.

or, we live on the edges, in the forest, and ignore all that shite.
Well said. Finally, the internet and technology as a "Unifying Force of Harmony." Not sure why it took this long.....

It's all gonna be "sunshine and lollypops" or "ice cream"" from here on out.... by law.

Kinda like when parents breaking up a fight between their children by hitting both of them much harder than they could ever hit each other!!!!

"Spare the rod, spoil the child!"

"Quit your whining about how society should be more harmonious or I''ll give you some harmony to whine about!!" (tm)
all we need is legalised marijuana and garunteed minimum wage, with subsidised apartments and internet.

the government sells the soma, erm, marijuana, internet and the apartments to the folks claiming the garunteed wage, so get all their money back and then all the urbanites spend their entire life stoned and masturbating, while eating a bowl of rice and a teaspoon of government issued protein.

this is the utopia that awaits, VR will be real life and nobody will notice them.
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noddy wrote: Mon May 03, 2021 4:19 am
Simple Minded wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 12:10 pm
noddy wrote: Sat May 01, 2021 3:58 am
Apollonius wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:39 pm
noddy wrote: Fri Apr 30, 2021 2:27 am its the same in Australia, modern middle class folks dont believe that being abused is a human right.

no conspiracy required, the sheltered ones believe in the concept of a cycle of violence, this has been taught as fact in movies and schools for decades now , so the way to fix the cycle of violence is to take all the attacks out of life.


The 'cycle of violence' I suffer from here is caused by trees: In summer there is the potential for forest fire. Our violent winter storms frequently cause some of them to crash. It's not safe out there. Maybe Mother Nature needs to be cancelled?
ironically the cancel culture people seem to always come from the places mother nature has been cancelled.

the morality of the apartment bound , permanent child who is scared of everything and turned passive aggression and inaction into a virtue, is the morality we will all live by, soon enough.

or, we live on the edges, in the forest, and ignore all that shite.
Well said. Finally, the internet and technology as a "Unifying Force of Harmony." Not sure why it took this long.....

It's all gonna be "sunshine and lollypops" or "ice cream"" from here on out.... by law.

Kinda like when parents breaking up a fight between their children by hitting both of them much harder than they could ever hit each other!!!!

"Spare the rod, spoil the child!"

"Quit your whining about how society should be more harmonious or I''ll give you some harmony to whine about!!" (tm)
all we need is legalised marijuana and garunteed minimum wage, with subsidised apartments and internet.

the government sells the soma, erm, marijuana, internet and the apartments to the folks claiming the garunteed wage, so get all their money back and then all the urbanites spend their entire life stoned and masturbating, while eating a bowl of rice and a teaspoon of government issued protein.

this is the utopia that awaits, VR will be real life and nobody will notice them.
You sir, are brilliant!

I like it! You're in charge! Much cheaper and greener than building walls around the big cities or welding the doors to their apartment shut.

Millions of millennials designing and arguing about the millions of perfect societies they have created on their computers without ever going outside, meeting another human face-to-face, and experiencing the environmental disaster the world has become! A Win for everyone!

Peer pressure will ensure voluntary compliance. Anyone who leaves their apartment for any reason will be deemed a science denying racist!
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noddy,

Years ago, the US started a prototype program of your prescription for our future:
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=honeymooners&t=h_&ia=web

Unfortunately, humans had a different concept of culture back then and it never took off.
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