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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:40 pm Omicron, the variant with no symptoms except a positive test, is evidence of herd immunity.
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
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Mr. Perfect wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:01 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:40 pm Omicron, the variant with no symptoms except a positive test, is evidence of herd immunity.
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
Tomorrow (Dec 21)the CDC officially recalls the unapproved PCR Covid test and withdraws its request for an extended EUA.

Essentially a confession that all COVID data collected using the PCR test is invalid. Which the CDC knew months ago when the recall was announced.

They recall lettuce and it’s gone the next day. COVID tests can wait six months.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:23 am
Mr. Perfect wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:01 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:40 pm Omicron, the variant with no symptoms except a positive test, is evidence of herd immunity.
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
Tomorrow (Dec 21)the CDC officially recalls the unapproved PCR Covid test and withdraws its request for an extended EUA.

Essentially a confession that all COVID data collected using the PCR test is invalid. Which the CDC knew months ago when the recall was announced.

. . .
Not according to the US CDC.

CDC | Lab Alert: Clarifications about the Retirement of the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
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Et tu, Trump?
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Typhoon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:49 pm Nature | The long and tangled history of mRNA vaccines

Six decades of research and discovery to go "from lab bench to bedside".


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The largest issue with COViD vaccines seems to be Aspiration of injections. From my personal experience Aspiration is needed. The manufactures of COIVD vaccine instruction include aspiration. Is it possible they know something about this?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5333604/
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Doc wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:20 pm
Typhoon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:49 pm Nature | The long and tangled history of mRNA vaccines

Six decades of research and discovery to go "from lab bench to bedside".


d41586-021-02483-w_19660718.png
The largest issue with COViD vaccines seems to be Aspiration of injections. From my personal experience Aspiration is needed. The manufactures of COIVD vaccine instruction include aspiration. Is it possible they know something about this?

. . .
"The manufactures of COVID vaccine instruction include aspiration."
Sounds implausible at best. Source?

For example, there is no such instruction for the Pfizer - BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine: https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471

I've never heard of this practice until your post and link.
There are no major blood vessels at the conventional injection site - the deltoid muscle of the the upper arm / shoulder.

Anecdotally, every drug and vaccine injection that i have ever received was done without aspiration including my three COVID-19 vaccine doses.

The only time I have seen aspiration done is when a needle is purposely inserted into a vein for a transfusion or infusion.
Aspiration was done to draw blood - to confirm that the needle is properly positioned in the vein.

Well, that and bone marrow biopsy.
However, if one has a reason to have a bone marrow biopsy performed, then aspiration is the least of one's worries.
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Typhoon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:38 am
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:23 am
Mr. Perfect wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:01 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:40 pm Omicron, the variant with no symptoms except a positive test, is evidence of herd immunity.
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
Tomorrow (Dec 21)the CDC officially recalls the unapproved PCR Covid test and withdraws its request for an extended EUA.

Essentially a confession that all COVID data collected using the PCR test is invalid. Which the CDC knew months ago when the recall was announced.

. . .
Not according to the US CDC.

CDC | Lab Alert: Clarifications about the Retirement of the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
Per this announcement, the unapproved 2019 test can not tell flu from covid (or some 52 other virus). Hence most of the covid data collected to date is invalid.

Now we will have a new unapproved test. A scientist should be interested in the validity and reliability data, and how it differs from the 2019 test.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:23 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:38 am
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:23 am
Mr. Perfect wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:01 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:40 pm Omicron, the variant with no symptoms except a positive test, is evidence of herd immunity.
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
Tomorrow (Dec 21)the CDC officially recalls the unapproved PCR Covid test and withdraws its request for an extended EUA.

Essentially a confession that all COVID data collected using the PCR test is invalid. Which the CDC knew months ago when the recall was announced.

. . .
Not according to the US CDC.

CDC | Lab Alert: Clarifications about the Retirement of the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
Per this announcement, the unapproved 2019 test can not tell flu from covid (or some 52 other virus). Hence most of the covid data collected to date is invalid.

Now we will have a new unapproved test. A scientist should be interested in the validity and reliability data, and how it differs from the 2019 test.
I re-read the above link US CDC article. Would you be so kind as to quote the parts of the article that support your claims.
I seem to have missed them.
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the manipulation through fear of the pubic I am finding more and more disgusting.

why do I say that? Because there are currently article stating that Omicron is not as severe as Delta on Google News of all places.

The first from CNN state s that there is a 2/3rds reduction in omicron in hospitalizations from Delta in hospitalizations from delta in the double vaccinated.

They wait to the very last line in the article to state:
""However, the study suggests there is no reduction in the severity of Omicron compared to Delta for the doubly vaccinated, indicating that it is not milder," Naismith said. "This finding is surprising but is grounded in data. There is no report on the benefit of boosting."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/22/health/o ... index.html

More and more it is looking like OmiCringe. But partake in all the covid boosters you want. The money spent goes to alleviating the suffering of the psychopathic Big Pharma CEOs, their share holders and authoritarian politicians everywhere. They just need a few trillion more and they will be happy.

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Typhoon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:27 am
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:23 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:38 am
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:23 am
Mr. Perfect wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:01 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:40 pm Omicron, the variant with no symptoms except a positive test, is evidence of herd immunity.
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
Tomorrow (Dec 21)the CDC officially recalls the unapproved PCR Covid test and withdraws its request for an extended EUA.

Essentially a confession that all COVID data collected using the PCR test is invalid. Which the CDC knew months ago when the recall was announced.

. . .
Not according to the US CDC.

CDC | Lab Alert: Clarifications about the Retirement of the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
Per this announcement, the unapproved 2019 test can not tell flu from covid (or some 52 other virus). Hence most of the covid data collected to date is invalid.

Now we will have a new unapproved test. A scientist should be interested in the validity and reliability data, and how it differs from the 2019 test.
I re-read the above link US CDC article. Would you be so kind as to quote the parts of the article that support your claims.
I seem to have missed them.
CDC is recommending that laboratories that routinely conduct influenza testing as well as COVID-19 testing, such as public health laboratories, consider transitioning to a test that can generate a result for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2, rather than running separate tests for each virus. The CDC Influenza SARS-CoV-2 (Flu SC2) Multiplex Assay, one such assay available to public health laboratories, can simultaneously detect and differentiate SARS-CoV-2, Influenza A, and Influenza B with one test. It is a more resource-efficient way for public health laboratories to meet influenza and SARS-CoV-2 surveillance goals.
Worded so as to deliberately obfuscate the failure of the original test to discern flu from covid or the fact that labs never attempted to detect flu with a separate test. The other 50+ viruses that also give a false positive are simply omitted.

The omission of information is a major type of official misinformation/propaganda. The giveaway here is that the official number of flu cases in the US was 0, which is an obvious falsity.

We know the covid bioweapon was developed in Wuhan and funded by Fauci because the accounting records, emails and Fauci’s perjured congressional testimony are now public record.

What is unknown is the percentage of flu, SARS &c cases counted as covid due to testing error.
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Lol Vaccine NPC's posting their L's. NYC is as vaccinated and masked as anyplace on the planet. The vaccines don't work. What a huge scam.

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Keep in mind Fauci controls billions of dollars. This is the level of intelligence it buys us.

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There are only so many ways you can say this. "The vaccinated are getting covid so get the vaccine"

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I wonder when Ron Desantis is going to get vilified for this
Mr. Perfect wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:25 am Lol Vaccine NPC's posting their L's. NYC is as vaccinated and masked as anyplace on the planet. The vaccines don't work. What a huge scam.

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How many ways can you say this

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Vaxxers posting their Ls. "3 shots didn't work for me, so get vaccinated"

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Mr. Perfect wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:47 am How many ways can you say this

I am waiting for the recommendation for daily booster jabs
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Doc wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:33 pm I am waiting for the recommendation for daily booster jabs
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https://gbdeclaration.org/
The Great Barrington Declaration

The Great Barrington Declaration – As infectious disease epidemiologists and public health scientists we have grave concerns about the damaging physical and mental health impacts of the prevailing COVID-19 policies, and recommend an approach we call Focused Protection.

Coming from both the left and right, and around the world, we have devoted our careers to protecting people. Current lockdown policies are producing devastating effects on short and long-term public health. The results (to name a few) include lower childhood vaccination rates, worsening cardiovascular disease outcomes, fewer cancer screenings and deteriorating mental health – leading to greater excess mortality in years to come, with the working class and younger members of society carrying the heaviest burden. Keeping students out of school is a grave injustice.

Keeping these measures in place until a vaccine is available will cause irreparable damage, with the underprivileged disproportionately harmed.

Fortunately, our understanding of the virus is growing. We know that vulnerability to death from COVID-19 is more than a thousand-fold higher in the old and infirm than the young. Indeed, for children, COVID-19 is less dangerous than many other harms, including influenza.

As immunity builds in the population, the risk of infection to all – including the vulnerable – falls. We know that all populations will eventually reach herd immunity – i.e. the point at which the rate of new infections is stable – and that this can be assisted by (but is not dependent upon) a vaccine. Our goal should therefore be to minimize mortality and social harm until we reach herd immunity.

The most compassionate approach that balances the risks and benefits of reaching herd immunity, is to allow those who are at minimal risk of death to live their lives normally to build up immunity to the virus through natural infection, while better protecting those who are at highest risk. We call this Focused Protection.

Adopting measures to protect the vulnerable should be the central aim of public health responses to COVID-19. By way of example, nursing homes should use staff with acquired immunity and perform frequent testing of other staff and all visitors. Staff rotation should be minimized. Retired people living at home should have groceries and other essentials delivered to their home. When possible, they should meet family members outside rather than inside. A comprehensive and detailed list of measures, including approaches to multi-generational households, can be implemented, and is well within the scope and capability of public health professionals.

Those who are not vulnerable should immediately be allowed to resume life as normal. Simple hygiene measures, such as hand washing and staying home when sick should be practiced by everyone to reduce the herd immunity threshold. Schools and universities should be open for in-person teaching. Extracurricular activities, such as sports, should be resumed. Young low-risk adults should work normally, rather than from home. Restaurants and other businesses should open. Arts, music, sport and other cultural activities should resume. People who are more at risk may participate if they wish, while society as a whole enjoys the protection conferred upon the vulnerable by those who have built up herd immunity.

On October 4, 2020, this declaration was authored and signed in Great Barrington, United States, by:

Dr. Martin Kulldorff, professor of medicine at Harvard University, a biostatistician, and epidemiologist with expertise in detecting and monitoring infectious disease outbreaks and vaccine safety evaluations.

Dr. Sunetra Gupta, professor at Oxford University, an epidemiologist with expertise in immunology, vaccine development, and mathematical modeling of infectious diseases.

Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor at Stanford University Medical School, a physician, epidemiologist, health economist, and public health policy expert focusing on infectious diseases and vulnerable populations.
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Dr. Angus Dalgleish, oncologist, infectious disease expert and professor, St. George’s Hospital Medical School, University of London, England

Dr. Anthony J Brookes, professor of genetics, University of Leicester, England
Dr. Annie Janvier, professor of pediatrics and clinical ethics, Université de Montréal and Sainte-Justine University Medical Centre, Canada

Dr. Ariel Munitz, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Boris Kotchoubey, Institute for Medical Psychology, University of Tübingen, Germany
Dr. Cody Meissner, professor of pediatrics, expert on vaccine development, efficacy, and safety. Tufts University School of Medicine, USA

Dr. David Katz, physician and president, True Health Initiative, and founder of the Yale University Prevention Research Center, USA

Dr. David Livermore, microbiologist, infectious disease epidemiologist and professor, University of East Anglia, England

Dr. Eitan Friedman, professor of medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Ellen Townsend, professor of psychology, head of the Self-Harm Research Group, University of Nottingham, England
Dr. Eyal Shahar, physician, epidemiologist and professor (emeritus) of public health, University of Arizona, USA

Dr. Florian Limbourg, physician and hypertension researcher, professor at Hannover Medical School, Germany
Dr. Gabriela Gomes, mathematician studying infectious disease epidemiology, professor, University of Strathclyde, Scotland

Dr. Gerhard Krönke, physician and professor of translational immunology, University of Erlangen-Nuremberg, Germany

Dr. Gesine Weckmann, professor of health education and prevention, Europäische Fachhochschule, Rostock, Germany

Dr. Günter Kampf, associate professor, Institute for Hygiene and Environmental Medicine, Greifswald University, Germany

Dr. Helen Colhoun, professor of medical informatics and epidemiology, and public health physician, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
Dr. Jonas Ludvigsson, pediatrician, epidemiologist and professor at Karolinska Institute and senior physician at Örebro University Hospital, Sweden

Dr. Karol Sikora, physician, oncologist, and professor of medicine at the University of Buckingham, England
Dr. Laura Lazzeroni, professor of psychiatry and behavioral sciences and of biomedical data science, Stanford University Medical School, USA

Dr. Lisa White, professor of modelling and epidemiology, Oxford University, England
Dr. Mario Recker, malaria researcher and associate professor, University of Exeter, England

Dr. Matthew Ratcliffe, professor of philosophy, specializing in philosophy of mental health, University of York, England
Dr. Matthew Strauss, critical care physician and assistant professor of medicine, Queen’s University, Canada
Dr. Michael Jackson, research fellow, School of Biological Sciences, University of Canterbury, New Zealand

Dr. Michael Levitt, biophysicist and professor of structural biology, Stanford University, USA.
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Dr. Mike Hulme, professor of human geography, University of Cambridge, England

Dr. Motti Gerlic, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Partha P. Majumder, professor and founder of the National Institute of Biomedical Genomics, Kalyani, India
Dr. Paul McKeigue, physician, disease modeler and professor of epidemiology and public health, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

Dr. Rajiv Bhatia, physician, epidemiologist and public policy expert at the Veterans Administration, USA
Dr. Rodney Sturdivant, infectious disease scientist and associate professor of biostatistics, Baylor University, USA
Dr. Simon Thornley, epidemiologist and biostatistician, University of Auckland, New Zealand

Dr. Simon Wood, biostatistician and professor, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

Dr. Stephen Bremner,professor of medical statistics, University of Sussex, England

Dr. Sylvia Fogel, autism provider and psychiatrist at Massachusetts General Hospital and instructor at Harvard Medical School, USA
Tom Nicholson, Associate in Research, Duke Center for International Development, Sanford School of Public Policy, Duke University, USA

Dr. Udi Qimron, professor of clinical microbiology and immunology, Tel Aviv University, Israel

Dr. Ulrike Kämmerer, professor and expert in virology, immunology and cell biology, University of Würzburg, Germany

Dr. Uri Gavish, biomedical consultant, Israel

Dr. Yaz Gulnur Muradoglu, professor of finance, director of the Behavioural Finance Working Group, Queen Mary University of London, England
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Doc wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:33 pm I am waiting for the recommendation for daily booster jabs
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I've been waiting for an IV drip. When they start walking around with a pole.
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Typhoon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:39 pm
Doc wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:20 pm
Typhoon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:49 pm Nature | The long and tangled history of mRNA vaccines

Six decades of research and discovery to go "from lab bench to bedside".


d41586-021-02483-w_19660718.png
The largest issue with COViD vaccines seems to be Aspiration of injections. From my personal experience Aspiration is needed. The manufactures of COIVD vaccine instruction include aspiration. Is it possible they know something about this?

. . .
"The manufactures of COVID vaccine instruction include aspiration."
Sounds implausible at best. Source?

For example, there is no such instruction for the Pfizer - BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine: https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471

Taken from the same instructions you link to above:
Pfizerinstructions.jpg
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I've never heard of this practice until your post and link.

There are no major blood vessels at the conventional injection site - the deltoid muscle of the the upper arm / shoulder.

Anecdotally, every drug and vaccine injection that i have ever received was done without aspiration including my three COVID-19 vaccine doses.

The only time I have seen aspiration done is when a needle is purposely inserted into a vein for a transfusion or infusion.
Aspiration was done to draw blood - to confirm that the needle is properly positioned in the vein.

Well, that and bone marrow biopsy.
However, if one has a reason to have a bone marrow biopsy performed, then aspiration is the least of one's worries.
I hope that the bone biopsy turned out negative Typhoon.


Aspiration was the standard, until around 2014 when WHO recommended dropping Aspiration. Part of the reason is that they felt that aspirating means some would have to have the needle pulled out and re-inserted if blood was present. This would lead to more people feeling discomfort and thus refusing to take injections.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28344770/

Aspiration in injections: should we continue or abandon the practice?

But the Pfizer shot instruction CLEARLY shows that it is to be an "intramuscular injection". As the only way to be sure of that is by Aspirating and there are blood vessels in the deltoid muscle otherwise the muscle would die and fall off your body. It does not matter that there are no "Major blood vessels" in it. Intramuscular means in the muscle not in the veins. The reason for that is to allow whatever is injected to slowly be released into the blood stream.

And I can personally attest that when I received my non aspirated J&J injection there was no aspiration and the injection site bleed after the injection. The bandage applied was full of blood later when I took it off. 25 days later I had three simultaneous mini strokes and ended up in the hospital. I did not know about the instructions calling for Aspiration previous to a month after. As A result I have numbness on my left side and constant "muscle tone" Meaning that the muscles are constantly contracted in my left side and upper arm. Especially after a sudden change in Temperature. Like when I take off my shirt in a cold room. The other result is that my health insurance went up by $1000 per month.

Now I know.
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Doc wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 8:18 pm
Typhoon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 10:39 pm
Doc wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 4:20 pm
Typhoon wrote: Sun Dec 19, 2021 9:49 pm Nature | The long and tangled history of mRNA vaccines

Six decades of research and discovery to go "from lab bench to bedside".


d41586-021-02483-w_19660718.png
The largest issue with COViD vaccines seems to be Aspiration of injections. From my personal experience Aspiration is needed. The manufactures of COIVD vaccine instruction include aspiration. Is it possible they know something about this?

. . .
"The manufactures of COVID vaccine instruction include aspiration."
Sounds implausible at best. Source?

For example, there is no such instruction for the Pfizer - BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine: https://labeling.pfizer.com/ShowLabeling.aspx?id=14471

Taken from the same instructions you link to above:
Pfizerinstructions.jpg


I've never heard of this practice until your post and link.

There are no major blood vessels at the conventional injection site - the deltoid muscle of the the upper arm / shoulder.

Anecdotally, every drug and vaccine injection that i have ever received was done without aspiration including my three COVID-19 vaccine doses.

The only time I have seen aspiration done is when a needle is purposely inserted into a vein for a transfusion or infusion.
Aspiration was done to draw blood - to confirm that the needle is properly positioned in the vein.

Well, that and bone marrow biopsy.
However, if one has a reason to have a bone marrow biopsy performed, then aspiration is the least of one's worries.
. . .


Aspiration was the standard, until around 2014 when WHO recommended dropping Aspiration. Part of the reason is that they felt that aspirating means some would have to have the needle pulled out and re-inserted if blood was present. This would lead to more people feeling discomfort and thus refusing to take injections.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28344770/

Aspiration in injections: should we continue or abandon the practice?

But the Pfizer shot instruction CLEARLY shows that it is to be an "intramuscular injection". As the only way to be sure of that is by Aspirating and there are blood vessels in the deltoid muscle otherwise the muscle would die and fall off your body. It does not matter that there are no "Major blood vessels" in it. Intramuscular means in the muscle not in the veins. The reason for that is to allow whatever is injected to slowly be released into the blood stream.

. . .
Well, yes. Intramuscular refers to injection into a muscle. The deltoid muscle as I mentioned above.

A bit of bleeding post-injection is not evidence that a major vein was hit. There are capillaries throughout the muscle tissue.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 2:39 am
Typhoon wrote: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:27 am
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Wed Dec 22, 2021 4:23 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 3:38 am
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Tue Dec 21, 2021 12:23 am
Mr. Perfect wrote: Mon Dec 20, 2021 6:01 pm
Could be. Establishment Covid class is melting down all over media, not sure why.
Tomorrow (Dec 21)the CDC officially recalls the unapproved PCR Covid test and withdraws its request for an extended EUA.

Essentially a confession that all COVID data collected using the PCR test is invalid. Which the CDC knew months ago when the recall was announced.

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Not according to the US CDC.

CDC | Lab Alert: Clarifications about the Retirement of the CDC 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCov) Real-Time RT-PCR Diagnostic Panel
Per this announcement, the unapproved 2019 test can not tell flu from covid (or some 52 other virus). Hence most of the covid data collected to date is invalid.

Now we will have a new unapproved test. A scientist should be interested in the validity and reliability data, and how it differs from the 2019 test.
I re-read the above link US CDC article. Would you be so kind as to quote the parts of the article that support your claims.
I seem to have missed them.
CDC is recommending that laboratories that routinely conduct influenza testing as well as COVID-19 testing, such as public health laboratories, consider transitioning to a test that can generate a result for both influenza and SARS-CoV-2, rather than running separate tests for each virus. The CDC Influenza SARS-CoV-2 (Flu SC2) Multiplex Assay, one such assay available to public health laboratories, can simultaneously detect and differentiate SARS-CoV-2, Influenza A, and Influenza B with one test. It is a more resource-efficient way for public health laboratories to meet influenza and SARS-CoV-2 surveillance goals.
Worded so as to deliberately obfuscate the failure of the original test to discern flu from covid or the fact that labs never attempted to detect flu with a separate test. The other 50+ viruses that also give a false positive are simply omitted.

The omission of information is a major type of official misinformation/propaganda. The giveaway here is that the official number of flu cases in the US was 0, which is an obvious falsity.

We know the covid bioweapon was developed in Wuhan and funded by Fauci because the accounting records, emails and Fauci’s perjured congressional testimony are now public record.

What is unknown is the percentage of flu, SARS &c cases counted as covid due to testing error.
Well, no. That's your interpretation.
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Re: The Potential Pandemic | Ebola, MERS, and other fears

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What's your explanation for zero flu.
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Re: The Potential Pandemic | Ebola, MERS, and other fears

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The "East Angelica" NIH emails - Hide the decline to accept the official line


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2weOjDogC4

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