Mr. Perfect wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 7:38 pm Ukraine a honeypot, many years, for "Establishment" (Democrats), got caught in the cookie jar. Pretending moral high ground, really worried though about gravy. Big Gravy.
Also, biggest problem with "Joe BIden" is SENILITY. Democrats thought SENILE President, good idea.
An obvious point. The elephant in the room - one which American pundits and wannabes, ersatz Iranians, and conspiracy theorists fail to see.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: ↑Thu Mar 31, 2022 1:34 am As much fun it is to be an American, everything doesn't revolve around us and even I think this thread has become too much about America and American politics.
The American Deep State may have conceptual utility, and I'd 1000% make the arguments for that; but we are entering Turkey levels of paranoia about who controls what and by how much.
Victoria Nuland, whatever I think of her, is not some super clever 4-d chess-playing, mind-controlling agent who gets Vladimir Putin to start wars for her.
Nor did we get Zelensky to do it either. This is my favorite excuse, "The Americans tricked Zelinsky to do it,"
Maybe I missed it but Ukrainian tanks didn't roll into Russian territory. Ukrainian planes weren't bombing Saint Petersburg.
Mr. Perfect wrote:
But but but but Establsihment says Biden has United the World lol
US deputy NSA Daleep Singh’s threats of ‘consequences’ point to a fissure within Joe Biden administration on India
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On Thursday, hours before Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov’s arrival, Singh told reporters in India that the US won’t like to see a “rapid acceleration of India’s imports from Russia as it relates to energy or any other any other exports that are currently being prohibited by the US or by other aspects of the international sanctions regime”. He warned that there will be “consequences” for countries, including India, “that actively attempt to circumvent or backfill the sanctions”, and also said that “we are very keen for all countries, especially our allies and partners, not to create mechanisms that prop up the ruble, and those that attempt to undermine the dollar-based financial system.”
These naked, public threats raised quite a few eyebrows. Syed Akbaruddin, former Indian envoy to the UN, wrote on Twitter that “This is not the language of diplomacy… This is the language of coercion… Somebody tell this young man that punitive unilateral economic measures are a breach of customary international law…”
Everything east of the Dnieper River.
Seems Putin Blinked. It is one day after the cut off, but gas still flowing to Europe.Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Fri Apr 01, 2022 2:02 am .
“If unfriendly countries do not pay in rubles starting from April 1, we will consider this a default on gas contracts, in which case the existing contracts will be scrapped,” the president said.
Putin explained that Russia "supplied gas" to Western states which "paid us in euros, which they themselves froze.”
You no dealing with fools, Mr. European gas buyer
BIPH0zN4-JU
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Still only 48 countries are participating in the western sanctions against Russia.
Three-quarters of all UN member states are refusing to comply, ..
Saudi foreign policy expert Mansour Almarzoqi declared that he sees “absolutely no difference” between the wars against Iraq (USA, 2003) and against Ukraine (Russia 2022) and accuses the West of “hypocrisy” : “hidden behind the thin façade of human rights and democracy rhetoric” lies the naked “colonial heritage of the West.”
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Until now, the number of countries participating in the West’s sanctions against Russia has not exceeded 48 – most of the countries are in Europe and North America, with six of their closest partners in the Asian-Pacific region. That does not even amount to a fourth of the total 193 members of the United Nations.
.Canceling Russian reserves boomerangs to a new international monetary system
.. the total financial war which has repercussed onto Russia will be key in defining the upcoming new world order.
A bit rich coming from one of the worst current abusers of human rights on the planet today.Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:07 am
Saudi foreign policy expert Mansour Almarzoqi declared that he sees “absolutely no difference” between the wars against Iraq (USA, 2003) and against Ukraine (Russia 2022) and accuses the West of “hypocrisy” : “hidden behind the thin façade of human rights and democracy rhetoric” lies the naked “colonial heritage of the West.”
However, the nations that are participating constitute most of the planet's GDP, aside from PR China.Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:07 am
Until now, the number of countries participating in the West’s sanctions against Russia has not exceeded 48 – most of the countries are in Europe and North America, with six of their closest partners in the Asian-Pacific region. That does not even amount to a fourth of the total 193 members of the United Nations.
The chancellor told Zelensky in Munich on February 19 “that Ukraine should renounce its NATO aspirations and declare neutrality as part of a wider European security deal between the West and Russia,” the paper writes. The daily also claims that “the pact would be signed by Mr. Putin and Mr. Biden, who would jointly guarantee Ukraine’s security.”
Zelensky rejected the offer to make the concession and avoid confrontation, saying that “[Russia’s President Vladimir] Putin couldn’t be trusted to uphold such an agreement and that most Ukrainians wanted to join NATO,” the WSJ reports, without revealing its sources for the information.
Sounds like a conspiracy theory to me.
Biden’s Sanctions Will Backfire
What fundamental U.S. interest is being served by Biden’s intervention in Ukraine, and at what cost?
Does anyone know what Joe Biden is doing in Ukraine ? Americans must feel like a high school substitute teacher. We turn our backs for five minutes and Joe Biden has restarted the Cold War. No grave address to the nation, no white papers, just “Democracy on the line.” Didn’t we used to vote on this kind of thing ?
False flag. Even the Democrat/WEF organ NYT is unable to confirm.Typhoon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:36 pm The Spectator | Russian cruelty has been laid bare
The Bucha massacre is just the latest horror
A seemingly inexhaustible collection of alternative looney-tune sites.Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:33 pmFalse flag. Even the Democrat/WEF organ NYT is unable to confirm.Typhoon wrote: ↑Mon Apr 04, 2022 9:36 pm The Spectator | Russian cruelty has been laid bare
The Bucha massacre is just the latest horror
https://greatgameindia.com/bucha-false-flag-attack/
Wot are you trying to say?Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Tue Apr 05, 2022 12:38 am Even hardcore deep state/WEF members/apologists are starting to walk back statements and policies, and issuing retractions or ‘clarifications’. NYT, WaPo, CDC. Even Hillary admitted she bought the ‘Russia’ fraud, albeit to get off with a token fine.
People who were prominent propagandists are silent. Odd that even the US military is absent in the public Ukraine discussion.
.To the world, China casts itself as a principled onlooker of the war in Ukraine, not picking sides, simply seeking peace. At home, though, the Chinese Communist Party is pushing a campaign that paints Russia as a long-suffering victim rather than an aggressor and defends China’s strong ties with Moscow as vital.
Chinese universities have organized classes to give students a “correct understanding” of the war, often highlighting Russia’s grievances with the West. Party newspapers have run series of commentaries blaming the United States for the conflict.
