Steers, Queers, and Chicks with Sticks | LGBTetcetera
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Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
I don't give a s--t about people's sexual preferences. But it pisses me to have gays consistently throwing their life styles to my face. Public display of sexual activities is bad taste, whatever form they take. And certainly nothing to be proud about... I'm proud to stutter! I'm proud of being left-handed! I'm proud of wearing glasses! I'm proud of my long nose...
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
Did you say long nose?Endovelico wrote:I don't give a s--t about people's sexual preferences. But it pisses me to have gays consistently throwing their life styles to my face. Public display of sexual activities is bad taste, whatever form they take. And certainly nothing to be proud about... I'm proud to stutter! I'm proud of being left-handed! I'm proud of wearing glasses! I'm proud of my long nose...
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Re: Transgender
So presumably you have a strong self-identity and self-perception as a heterosexual male.Mr. Perfect wrote:I don't know which forum to put this in, so if mods want to move it I'm amenable.
I'm sort of squeamish, so I'll beat around the bush but you should get the drift. I'm doing this in an enlightened forum because I want to know what poster here think.
Transgender (internet)
A sex change apparently is not what make you tranny
Transgender is the state of one's gender identity or gender expression not matching one's assigned sex.[1] Transgender is independent of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual, etc; some may consider conventional sexual orientation labels inadequate or inapplicable to them. The definition of transgender includes:
Just if you feel different than what is happening between the legs.
Now imagine if you had the same strong self-identity and self-perception but had the physical body of a woman.
This is called gender/sex dysphoria:
http://www.nature.com/nrurol/journal/v9 ... 2.182.html
[Your local university library should carry Nature, so you may be able to download a pdf there without paying for it.]
So my questions:
1/ Gender/sex reassignment surgeryMr. Perfect wrote: 1) is what is the word for sex change.
2) What "rights" do trannies not have
3) I accidentally came across information on sex changes. Basically, it's all make believe. A man cannot become woman, physically, and vice versa. So why do I have to pretend men can turn into women and vice versa when they cannot.
Sex Reassignment Surgery in the Female-to-Male Transsexual
Sex Reassignment Surgery in the Male-to-Female Transsexual
2/ I assume that you are referring to the USA, so no idea.
3/ How exactly does one "accidentally" come across information on sex changes?
Accidentally coming across "lemonparty" is far more likely.
Anyways, joking aside, citation/link please.
A little something for you . . .
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Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
it surely is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to avoiding tedious issues of economic and foreign policy disasters - few things manage to inflame the wedge points between and within the 2 main parties with quite the same passion.
ive tried to care either way, i failed.
ive tried to care either way, i failed.
ultracrepidarian
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
Amen. I think it is one the few issues both parties can use to pretend they care while shucking real responsibility and obfuscating their piss poor performance.noddy wrote:it surely is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to avoiding tedious issues of economic and foreign policy disasters - few things manage to inflame the wedge points between and within the 2 main parties with quite the same passion.
ive tried to care either way, i failed.
IMSMO, 85+% of the population could not care less about this issue, but when one defines themselves as either a victim or a savior (SJW) on an chic topic, one must dive into the chic topic pool with both feet!
Other wise one's sense of self ceases to exist (once I no longer have an audience, who am I? )!
Same for those who define themselves by the tribal identity labels of race, religion, political parties, nation, region, height, weight, hobby, sports team fan, Ford or Chevy truck owner, red, green, or blue tractor owner, etc.
What are your preferred labels? Apple? Microsoft? Calvin Klein? Pabst Blue Ribbon
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
If all it takes to bring down a civilization is some 1% of the population getting married,
then that civilization was on rather weak foundations to begin with and was doomed from the onset.
If not, then what's the problem?
Either way, "live and let live" seems an impossible concept for some.
then that civilization was on rather weak foundations to begin with and was doomed from the onset.
If not, then what's the problem?
Either way, "live and let live" seems an impossible concept for some.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
amen. For some, the most inhospitable place they could ever possibly live is between their own ears.Typhoon wrote:
Either way, "live and let live" seems an impossible concept for some.
The bright side is they make none more miserable than themselves. Seems just to me. they just have not hit their pain threshold yet.
In Redneck Zen speak: "You made that bed, now lay in it." pun intended...
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
Bingo.noddy wrote:it surely is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to avoiding tedious issues of economic and foreign policy disasters - few things manage to inflame the wedge points between and within the 2 main parties with quite the same passion.
ive tried to care either way, i failed.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
It is certainly not lost on the Obama Admin that such wedge issues help immensely to divert from its long series of failures. Pointing out that Trolling actually works:Typhoon wrote:Bingo.noddy wrote:it surely is the gift that keeps on giving when it comes to avoiding tedious issues of economic and foreign policy disasters - few things manage to inflame the wedge points between and within the 2 main parties with quite the same passion.
ive tried to care either way, i failed.
The real question here is how was Obama so sure the central committee would make up law and vote in favor of gay marriage that it had colored lights installed?
"I fancied myself as some kind of god....It is a sort of disease when you consider yourself some kind of god, the creator of everything, but I feel comfortable about it now since I began to live it out.” -- George Soros
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
It's a conspiracy, of course.
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SCOTUS is part of your government by constitutional law.
Contrary to popular belief, living in a republican democracy does not mean always getting one's way.
SCOTUS did their job and ruled on whether or not a set of laws are constitutional or not.
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SCOTUS is part of your government by constitutional law.
Contrary to popular belief, living in a republican democracy does not mean always getting one's way.
SCOTUS did their job and ruled on whether or not a set of laws are constitutional or not.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
linux, freeballing and chimay blue.Simple Minded wrote:What are your preferred labels? Apple? Microsoft? Calvin Klein? Pabst Blue Ribbon
i was hip before hip became hip.
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Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
That's why everyone was ultra cool with the Dred Scott decision.Typhoon wrote:It's a conspiracy, of course.
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SCOTUS is part of your government by constitutional law.
Contrary to popular belief, living in a republican democracy does not mean always getting one's way.
SCOTUS did their job and ruled on whether or not a set of laws are constitutional or not.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
Do you think gay marriage is worth fighting a civil war over.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:That's why everyone was ultra cool with the Dred Scott decision.Typhoon wrote:It's a conspiracy, of course.
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SCOTUS is part of your government by constitutional law.
Contrary to popular belief, living in a republican democracy does not mean always getting one's way.
SCOTUS did their job and ruled on whether or not a set of laws are constitutional or not.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
False dichotomy.Typhoon wrote:Do you think gay marriage is worth fighting a civil war over.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:That's why everyone was ultra cool with the Dred Scott decision.Typhoon wrote:It's a conspiracy, of course.
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SCOTUS is part of your government by constitutional law.
Contrary to popular belief, living in a republican democracy does not mean always getting one's way.
SCOTUS did their job and ruled on whether or not a set of laws are constitutional or not.
It isn't about the reaction to the decisions, it is to their efficiency in settling matters. The courts, especially our Supreme Court, err all the time and are mercurial to boot. One particularly egregious example is Minersville School District vs Gobitis: decided by a majority of 8 to 1 only to be overruled 3 years later in West Virginia School Board of Education vs Barnette by a majority of 6 to 3. Two were new, three justices changed their minds and only one remaining judge stuck to his original ruling.
This is the ruling body that have people saying the matter is settled?
And add to it the fickleness in how humans approach sex. People's attitudes about it change on a dime for sundry reasons. I swear half the time it is just because people can't sit still.
When its biggest backers were the target demo for Limp Bizkit just 15 years ago, I'd be very slow to celebrate any permanent changes.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
and variations upon that - change for changes sake, appearing different, seen to be doing something etc etcNapLajoieonSteroids wrote: I swear half the time it is just because people can't sit still..
ultracrepidarian
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
Well, Prohibition was mandated under the Eighteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, so I suppose that anything is possible.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:False dichotomy.Typhoon wrote:Do you think gay marriage is worth fighting a civil war over.NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:That's why everyone was ultra cool with the Dred Scott decision.Typhoon wrote:It's a conspiracy, of course.
_________________________________________________
SCOTUS is part of your government by constitutional law.
Contrary to popular belief, living in a republican democracy does not mean always getting one's way.
SCOTUS did their job and ruled on whether or not a set of laws are constitutional or not.
It isn't about the reaction to the decisions, it is to their efficiency in settling matters. The courts, especially our Supreme Court, err all the time and are mercurial to boot. One particularly egregious example is Minersville School District vs Gobitis: decided by a majority of 8 to 1 only to be overruled 3 years later in West Virginia School Board of Education vs Barnette by a majority of 6 to 3. Two were new, three justices changed their minds and only one remaining judge stuck to his original ruling.
This is the ruling body that have people saying the matter is settled?
And add to it the fickleness in how humans approach sex. People's attitudes about it change on a dime for sundry reasons. I swear half the time it is just because people can't sit still.
When its biggest backers were the target demo for Limp Bizkit just 15 years ago, I'd be very slow to celebrate any permanent changes.
Still, whatever one may think about the fickleness of youth,
unless there is a major fundamentalist revival,
I doubt that many will change their minds on this issue,
and such a revival seem unlikely in the foreseeable future.
Still, anything is possible.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
did you really put a picture of the White House and use the word "colored" in the same post?Doc wrote:
The real question here is how was Obama so sure the central committee would make up law and vote in favor of gay marriage that it had colored lights installed?
How insensitive!
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
Simple Minded wrote:did you really put a picture of the White House and use the word "colored" in the same post?Doc wrote:
The real question here is how was Obama so sure the central committee would make up law and vote in favor of gay marriage that it had colored lights installed?
How insensitive!
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
This observation of timeless wisdom is why both of you are my heroes....... for now anyway.noddy wrote:and variations upon that - change for changes sake, appearing different, seen to be doing something etc etcNapLajoieonSteroids wrote: I swear half the time it is just because people can't sit still..
Various interpretations of Blaise Pascal (1623-1662):
"I have discovered that all human evil comes from this: man’s being unable to sit still in a room."
"All the troubles of man come from his not knowing how to sit still in a room."
"I have often said that all the misfortunes of men spring from their not knowing how to live quietly at home, in their own rooms."
"All our troubles come from not being able to be alone."
"All the miseries of mankind come from one thing, not knowing how to be alone."
"The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it. Power is what all messiahs really seek: not the chance to serve. This is true even of the pious brethren who carry the gospel to foreign parts."
H.L. Mencken
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C.S. Lewis
Imagine the internal agony of a SJW/Zealous religious/savior politician who could not find a victim of capitalism, corporatism, 1%ers, oligarchs, racism, sexism, bigotry, etc., or a lost soul, or an infidel behind every blade of grass. They would lose their raisin de entree'.
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
I'm startin to feel like there's a Stralian inside of me that wants to come out......... where's the advocacy group I can turn to for emotional support and recognition......noddy wrote:linux, freeballing and chimay blue.Simple Minded wrote:What are your preferred labels? Apple? Microsoft? Calvin Klein? Pabst Blue Ribbon
i was hip before hip became hip.
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Re: Transgender
I think that's bigoted on your part.Typhoon wrote: So presumably you have a strong self-identity and self-perception as a heterosexual male.
How can I imagine that.Now imagine if you had the same strong self-identity and self-perception but had the physical body of a woman.
Did you happen to read either of those.This is called gender/sex dysphoria:
http://www.nature.com/nrurol/journal/v9 ... 2.182.html
[Your local university library should carry Nature, so you may be able to download a pdf there without paying for it.]
I can't find anyone who has any idea.2/ I assume that you are referring to the USA, so no idea.
By reading an article about He/She Jenner on a religious forum and then in mid reading it goes into IIRC fallopian tubes or something like that. Turns out Msr Jenner does not and can't have any. IIRC. I made it 2 sentences in. I'll go back if you really want me to.3/ How exactly does one "accidentally" come across information on sex changes?
Accidentally coming across "lemonparty" is far more likely.
Anyways, joking aside, citation/link please.
Why is this for me?A little something for you . . .
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Censorship isn't necessary
Re: Steers and Queers | The LGBT Issue
This is the LGBT thread.
Polygamy is a distinct and separate issue and thus has its own thread.
Please post accordingly.
Polygamy is a distinct and separate issue and thus has its own thread.
Please post accordingly.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Transgender
If you are incapable of any understanding and/or empathy regarding this condition, then best to leave the issue to others.Mr. Perfect wrote:I think that's bigoted on your part.Typhoon wrote: So presumably you have a strong self-identity and self-perception as a heterosexual male.
How can I imagine that.Now imagine if you had the same strong self-identity and self-perception but had the physical body of a woman.
Skimmed them to confirm that the procedures were what I thought they were.Mr. Perfect wrote:Did you happen to read either of those.This is called gender/sex dysphoria:
http://www.nature.com/nrurol/journal/v9 ... 2.182.html
[Your local university library should carry Nature, so you may be able to download a pdf there without paying for it.]
Broaden your soclal circle.Mr. Perfect wrote:I can't find anyone who has any idea.2/ I assume that you are referring to the USA, so no idea.
So post-op trannies can't have kids. So what?Mr. Perfect wrote:By reading an article about He/She Jenner on a religious forum and then in mid reading it goes into IIRC fallopian tubes or something like that. Turns out Msr Jenner does not and can't have any. IIRC. I made it 2 sentences in. I'll go back if you really want me to.3/ How exactly does one "accidentally" come across information on sex changes?
Accidentally coming across "lemonparty" is far more likely.
Anyways, joking aside, citation/link please.
[Not uncommon amongst heterosexuals, btw. Are such people lesser heteros?].
Unless Jenner is proactively stalking and soliciting you, with [presumably] no reciprocal interest on your part, why is that any concern of yours?
According to you/your theocracy, what should be done, if anything, to/with this individual?Mr. Perfect wrote:Why is this for me?A little something for you . . .
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A modest proposal.
**Proposes a Toast**
I would like to honor Mr. P and Col. Typhoon's (near) ten-year anniversary of "All Fighting and No Sex." By the rules of the Internets you are now in a common-law partnership.
I cordially pronounce you husband and wife. (you'll have to decide who identifies with which role)
I would like to honor Mr. P and Col. Typhoon's (near) ten-year anniversary of "All Fighting and No Sex." By the rules of the Internets you are now in a common-law partnership.
I cordially pronounce you husband and wife. (you'll have to decide who identifies with which role)
Re: A modest proposal.
hear hear!Yukon Cornelius wrote:**Proposes a Toast**
I would like to honor Mr. P and Col. Typhoon's (near) ten-year anniversary of "All Fighting and No Sex." By the rules of the Internets you are now in a common-law partnership.
I cordially pronounce you husband and wife. (you'll have to decide who identifies with which role)
My glass is raised, not only to Mr. P & Typhoon, but also to Mr. P & YMix, Mr. P & Enki, Mr. P & HP, Mr. P & Endo, Mr. P & Parody, etc.......
for a guy who claims to believe that monogamy is the morally superior ground..... he sure seems to believe in scattering his seeds (screeds?)!
Mixing threads: Evolution would seem to favor internet sex over phone sex when it comes to efficient propagation..... and propaganda-ization....... of one's jeans....