The Donald....the newest savior.....

[Mr. Perfect]

“I play to people’s fantasies,” he writes in “The Art of the Deal,” his 1987 memoir. “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

If you listen carefully to the guy, he's implied that he wants to play the immigrants off the jobs when it comes to Mexico. That's how he believes he's gonna get Mexico to pay for the Great Wall of Trump.

I don't think he has any dream in his head of getting both but that's the fantasy he's selling.

He's achieved far better than that many times over in his real life. You guys have no vision.

[Parodite]

When you are honest about dishonesty you reach some of the highest honesty achievable.

Like that. Then being dishonest about dishonesty must be the lowest dishonesty achievable?

[Mr. Perfect]

Sounds good to me.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

I think the deportation claims are more popular 'generally' than they are with soilid blocs of people in either party. It's an across the board popular issue though.

Outside of the media public shaming, a lot of people would break his way just for that- even a certain amount of Hispanics.

And it helps that it is hard to get Hispanics to the polls outside a few pocket areas. They don't show up, they don't care, they aren't voting. Maybe that all changes in 2016 but it would be something new.

Now, if Trump wins the Republican nomination that will be a vote against the media more than anything....

[YMix]

And he's honest about it. When you are honest about dishonesty you reach some of the highest honesty achievable.

I'm glad you approve of Trump honestly lying to you.

[Mr. Perfect]

I think the deportation claims are more popular 'generally' than they are with soilid blocs of people in either party. It's an across the board popular issue though.

Outside of the media public shaming, a lot of people would break his way just for that- even a certain amount of Hispanics.

And it helps that it is hard to get Hispanics to the polls outside a few pocket areas. They don't show up, they don't care, they aren't voting. Maybe that all changes in 2016 but it would be something new.

Now, if Trump wins the Republican nomination that will be a vote against the media more than anything....

You are getting closer.

[Mr. Perfect]

And he's honest about it. When you are honest about dishonesty you reach some of the highest honesty achievable.

I'm glad you approve of Trump honestly lying to you.

At least he's honest about, unlike every other pol out there. And don't rely on false binaries.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

“I play to people’s fantasies,” he writes in “The Art of the Deal,” his 1987 memoir. “I call it truthful hyperbole. It’s an innocent form of exaggeration—and a very effective form of promotion.”

If you listen carefully to the guy, he's implied that he wants to play the immigrants off the jobs when it comes to Mexico. That's how he believes he's gonna get Mexico to pay for the Great Wall of Trump.

I don't think he has any dream in his head of getting both but that's the fantasy he's selling.

He's achieved far better than that many times over in his real life. You guys have no vision.

I could introduce you to a man who has beaten him twice, kicked his teeth in on building deals in his own backyard.

I'm not trying to knock the guy, and maybe he pulls it out; but you are really buying his bs if you think he's some sort of super duper negotiator.

Gossip among those NYC bigshots he's always bragging about is that he'll run out of steam before the caucus comes.

[Mr. Perfect]

The guy earned 10 billion dollars negotiating. I don't know anyone who made more money negotiating in human history.

[Mr. Perfect]

And you are hitting on something. I'm no Trump apologist, I listed my negatives on him earlier. You guys just aren't accurate so far.

The real issue is if he gets bored with it.

[YMix]

The guy earned 10 billion dollars negotiating.

So he keeps saying.

[Nastarana]

The guy earned 10 billion dollars negotiating.

Mr. Perf is the authentic voice of the USA today where money is the measure of all things, never mind how it was earned, you should excuse the expression., and the guy with mostes gets to run things.

[Mr. Perfect]

Not really. It is a measure of how well you negotiate. That's just one thing, not all things.

[YMix]

Mr. Perf is the authentic voice of the USA today where money is the measure of all things, never mind how it was earned, you should excuse the expression., and the guy with mostes gets to run things.

After all, one of Trump's biggest selling points is that he doesn't need somebody else to buy him the White House because he's rich enough to buy it himself.

[Mr. Perfect]

Man you guys play directly into his hands. Its getting harder to imagine how he doesn't win.

[Mr. Perfect]

Nastarana, Trump is against hedge fund managers, has taken zero corporate dollars and is beholden to no party or interest group. You and ymix should really like him and you don't. Why is that.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

You really buy the ten billion, huh? Even when he had his lawyers estimate his name as 4 billion of that amount?

Bloomberg, going off what Trump filed for the election, puts him at 2.9 billion overall.

EDIT: I originally ended with saying, "maybe as low as 300 million in actual dollars." But that is actually not from another Bloomberg article written by a guy who he sued unsuccessfully over a book he wrote about Trump.

[Mr. Perfect]

Still makes him the most successful negotiator in 100 years.

How much money have you made negotiating.

[Endovelico]

Whoever becomes the next POTUS chances are things will go this way:



The question is whether it will be served with vodka or with jasmine tea...

[Nonc Hilaire]

Still makes him the most successful negotiator in 100 years.

How much money have you made negotiating.

The job of POTUS is not Negotiator-in-Chief. It is not Money-Maker in Chief.
Trump's strength is his pragmatism and complete lack of any ideology. He is not Republican, he is not capitalist. He is whatever seems best at the moment.

Think of the recent nuclear attack at Tanjin. WWTD?

[Mr. Perfect]

That's what some are trying to sell. But your goalposts keep moving. Better come up with something substantial soon.

[Mr. Perfect]

Whoever becomes the next POTUS chances are things will go this way:



The question is whether it will be served with vodka or with jasmine tea...

A sobering reminder. After baramba it is probably too late indeed.

[Nonc Hilaire]

That's what some are trying to sell. But your goalposts keep moving. Better come up with something substantial soon.

The world's goalposts always keep moving. This is why your efforts to freeze frame every discussion into an argument continually fail.

Trump has no idea what he would do in case of a nuclear attack. He as never sat on any committee, much less a relevant one. Does he even have a security clearance? God help us all if tried to make America "win".

A CEO is a dictator. A President is not.

[Heracleum Persicum]

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Patrick J. Buchanan
Is Trumpism the Rebirth of Nationalism ?

Since China devalued its currency 3 percent, global markets have gone into a tailspin. Why should this be? After all, 3 percent devaluation in China could be countered by a U.S. tariff of 3 percent on all goods made in China, and the tariff revenue used to cut U.S. corporate taxes.

The crisis in world markets seems related not only to a sinking Chinese economy, but also to what Beijing is saying to the world; i.e., China will save herself first even if it means throwing others out of the life boat.

Disbelievers in New World Order mythology have long recognized that this new China is fiercely nationalistic. Indeed, with Marxism-Leninism dead, nationalism is the Communist Party’s fallback faith. China has thus kept her currency cheap to hold down imports and keep exports surging. She has run $300 billion trade surpluses at the expense of the Americans. She has demanded technology transfers from firms investing in China and engaged in technology theft. Disillusioned U.S. executives have been pulling out.

And the stronger China has grown economically, the more bellicose she has become with her neighbors from Japan to Vietnam to the Philippines. Lately, China has laid claim to virtually the entire South China Sea and all its islands and reefs as national territory.

In short, China is becoming a mortal threat to the rules-based global economy Americans have been erecting since the end of the Cold War, even as the U.S. system of alliances erected by Cold War and post-Cold War presidents seems to be unraveling.

Germany, the economic powerhouse of the European Union, was divided until recently on whether Greece should be thrown out of the eurozone. German nationalists have had enough of Club Med. On issues from mass migrations from the Third World, to deeper political integration of Europe, to the EU’s paltry contributions to a U.S.-led NATO that defends the continent, nationalistic resistance is rising.

Enter the Donald. If there is a single theme behind his message, it would seem to be a call for a New Nationalism or New Patriotism. He is going to “make America great again.” He is going to build a wall on the border that will make us proud, and Mexico will pay for it. He will send all illegal aliens home and restore the traditional value of U.S. citizenship by putting an end to the scandal of “anchor babies.”

One never hears Trump discuss the architecture of our rules-based global economy. Rather, he speaks of Mexico, China, and Japan as tough rivals, not “trade partners,” smart antagonists who need to face tough American negotiators who will kick their butts.

They took our jobs and factories; now we are going to take them back. And if that Ford plant stays in Mexico, then Ford will have to climb a 35-percent tariff wall to get its trucks and cars back into the USA. Trump to Ford: Bring that factory back to Michigan!

To Trump, the world is not Davos; it is the NFL. He is appalled at those mammoth container ships in West Coat ports bringing in Hondas and Toyotas. Those ships should be carrying American cars to Asia. Asked by adviser Dick Allen for a summation of U.S. policy toward the Soviets, Ronald Reagan said: “We win; they lose.” That it is not an unfair summation of what Trump is saying about Mexico, Japan and China.

While the economic nationalism here is transparent, Trump also seems to be saying that foreign regimes are freeloading off the U.S. defense budget and U.S. military. He asks why rich Germans aren’t in the vanguard in the Ukraine crisis. Why do South Koreans, with an economy 40 times that of the North and a population twice as large, need U.S. troops on the DMZ? “What’s in it for us?” he seems ever to be asking.

He has called Vladimir Putin a Russian patriot and nationalist with whom he can talk. He has not joined the Republican herd that says it will cancel the Iran nuclear deal the day they take office, re-impose U.S. sanctions and renegotiate the deal. Trump says he would insure that Iran lives up to the terms.

While his foreign policy positions seem unformed, his natural reflex appears nonideological and almost wholly results-oriented. He looks on foreign trade much as did 19th-century Republicans.

They saw America as the emerging world power and Britain as the nation to beat, as China sees us today. Those Americans used tariffs, both to force foreigners to pay to build our country, and to keep British imports at a price disadvantage in the USA. Then they exploited British free trade policy to ship as much as they could to the British Isles to take down their factories and capture their jobs for U.S. workers, as the Chinese do to us today.

Whatever becomes of Trump the candidate, Trumpism, i.e., economic and foreign policy nationalism, appears ascendant.

Always liked Buchanan


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[Mr. Perfect]

The world's goalposts always keep moving. This is why your efforts to freeze frame every discussion into an argument continually fail.

Not according to election results.

Trump has no idea what he would do in case of a nuclear attack. He as never sat on any committee, much less a relevant one. Does he even have a security clearance? God help us all if tried to make America "win".

Nobody has any idea what they would do in the event of a nuclear attack. Those manuals are written by low level staffers and are largely ignored for good reason.

A CEO is a dictator. A President is not.

A CEO is a businessman who is accountable to customers and shareholders. There is no comparison to a dictator. Dictator types crash and burn all the time in business.