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https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/bo ... 022-04-20/

Bookmakers see France's Macron easily winning Sunday's runoff

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... rexit-vote

Le Pen Upset Would Be as Big a Shock to Markets as Brexit

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https://english.alarabiya.net/News/worl ... ken-Russia


https://hiindia.com/2022/04/20/turkey-e ... n-ukraine/

Some NATO members want to use Ukraine conflict to weaken Russia, says Ankara’s foreign minister

“There are countries within NATO that want the Ukraine war to continue. They see the continuation of the war as weakening Russia. They don’t care much about the situation in Ukraine,” Cavusoglu said.
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Rather China-Russia-Iran Ax getting stronger .. mainly due to big rising economies not siding with US/EU .. India, Africa, Latin America, Mexico , ARABS staying either neutral or side with Russia
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Western leftist busy studying castration. Completely consumed with castration

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NYT
Macron May Keep the Presidency,
but Le Pen Has Already Won

Emmanuel Macron won in Semur-en-Auxois in the first round of voting this month, but Ms. Le Pen took the larger Burgundy Franche-Comté region, with 27 percent of the vote over Mr. Macron’s 26 percent.

Ms. Le Pen’s success comes from casting herself as the defender of the countryside and the working class, focusing on cost-of-living issues and defending social protections. She has also been helped by an image makeover in which she opened up about raising her children as a single mother and now combines tough talk on immigration with social media posts about her cats.

The stigma she has long carried in mainstream politics has been quickly wearing off, and people are supporting her more openly than ever before.

As I drove around rural Burgundy after the first round of voting this month, I came away with a strong sense that while Mr. Macron may well defeat her in the second round this Sunday, in many ways, Ms. Le Pen has already won.

In the first round, she put Mr. Macron on the defensive and convinced almost a quarter of voters that she has their best interests at heart. In the second round, polls predict she could easily win more than 40 percent, potentially 10 points more than in 2017.

The election being fought this time is less about change than about protection — who will protect the French : from the rising cost of living, the pandemic, the war in Ukraine, immigrants (for some), as well as who will protect France’s generous social welfare system.

Other voters are also seeking protection from the elite. The same winds that brought Brexit and helped elect President Donald Trump are also blowing through France. Ms. Le Pen has positioned herself to appear closer to the people than Mr. Macron, the ultimate technocrat, who has spent five years unable to shake his reputation as “president of the rich.”

French election crucial for what's comin in Germany .. Olaf Scholz watching
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We finally are over the Le Pen fever.

She wasn't going to win, she's never going to win and putting on my conspiracy hat, she's controlled opposition considering how much she is a clog in French politics.

translation:

A French journalist literally titled her bio: “A young man so perfect” (without irony).

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:39 am We finally are over the Le Pen fever.

She wasn't going to win, she's never going to win and putting on my conspiracy hat, she's controlled opposition considering how much she is a clog in French politics.

Le Pen carried the French colonies, so I would not write her off yet.

Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 3:36 pm

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:39 am We finally are over the Le Pen fever.

She wasn't going to win, she's never going to win and putting on my conspiracy hat, she's controlled opposition considering how much she is a clog in French politics.

Le Pen carried the French colonies, so I would not write her off yet.
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‘Victory’ in defeat ?
Le Pen raises far right’s glass ceiling,
fails to crack it

.. the surge in support for far-right candidates begs the question of how long a creaking “republican front” of anti-Le Pen voters will hold in an increasingly polarised nation.

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On her third attempt, Le Pen has moved several steps closer to the Élysée Palace, adding almost 3 million votes to her tally from 2017 and surpassing 40 percent of the vote. Not since World War II has the nationalist far right come this close to power in France.

“The ideas we represent have reached new heights,” Le Pen told supporters in a defiant speech, hailing a “shining victory” even as she conceded defeat to the incumbent, Emmanuel Macron. The 53-year-old vowed to “keep up the fight” and lead the battle in parliamentary elections in June.
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She only 54 , still young, Am sure next time she will win
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Hmm. France elections, 7 years apart. That's too much. "Undemocratic".

Mr. Perfect wrote: ↑Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:17 pm Hmm. France elections, 7 years apart. That's too much. "Undemocratic".

Already changed to 5 yrs apart

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htj85Zl4iTI&t=24s

Macron pelted with tomatoes during first trip since re-election

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So just another riot season in France or should we be on the lookout for the 18th republic or 5th monarchy or, maybe a directorate or two?

my guess will be rise of the "far" right, tough on crime and reduced immigration and internationalism.

dont think we are quite at revolution stage yet in the west, but its probably not that far off.

The news either proclaims the imminent end of the French government (metastasizing to Belgium) or ignores France completely. Nothing in between.

The burning of the library is hard to ignore but the US press ignores it.

as nap mentioned, its so hard to tell if its a real thing, or the annual keep the french car industry alive thing.

also, its blacks and arabs doing all the pillaging, so the lefty media is going to be keeping quiet on that, while the right media will be feeding another story from it.

That's the conundrum.

The info well is poisoned.

Over here, we have racialist fanatics heavily pushing most of it, which brings 'x' amount of skepticism.

Over there, the riots are now spreading in Switzerland; the attack on the Mayor of Marseilles' home seems quite serious-- he called it an assassination attempt-- and I think I read his wife broke her leg and one of the children were injured on their way out.

twitters (et all) view of the world is even more unrealistic than CNN or Foxes.

any faith I had in social media providing any insight into anything has long since been burnt in a shitstorm of dumb.

for now, it appears the French thing is settling back into status quo, and its probably not going to be until the next election we get to see what the real outcome is going to be.

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https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/ ... e=homepage


Disaster


Western media silent

noddy wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 12:52 pm twitters (et all) view of the world is even more unrealistic than CNN or Foxes.

any faith I had in social media providing any insight into anything has long since been burnt in a shitstorm of dumb.

for now, it appears the French thing is settling back into status quo, and its probably not going to be until the next election we get to see what the real outcome is going to be.

I'm still giving a hard disagree to the CNN/Fox love fest but so-called social media is a cesspool of fanatics, only slightly different in social degree from those who get paid for it.

...and I've got a strong stomach for hearing everyone's prejudice but there is a limit to how many barely concealed "drive the brown people into the Seine" I can take.

Media has an agitprop problem.

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Read someone who's spent extensive time in France who put it this way: "You leave France and go to the countries of origin of the migrants and it's all wonderful people despite whatever shitty material situation. You head back to France, and then you notice that they get all the dregs in the pimps, the drug dealers and serial thieves, the nutjob political radicals....

And it becomes pretty apparent that they are just let it so the liberals can get access to drugs and sex and cheap labor (when they actually labor); the politicians have a shock force on the ground to terrorize people, and the old country just gets to offload all their trouble makers while pocketing some money here or there."

Heracleum Persicum wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:52 pm .

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/europe/ ... e=homepage


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Western media silent

A casual search of Western mainstream media returns extensive coverage.

If my translation is correct, the police are standing with the people against the government.

"Facing these savage hordes" is quite an opening.

They weasel through it just enough.

The real gist of it is that the national police are on trial for their actions with a bunch of political activists ready for a carving.

French pilot of plane that decapitated skydiver found guilty of manslaughter

Galy’s body landed in a field after his emergency parachute opened.

During the trial, Alain argued he did not do anything wrong, adding that Galy "did not follow the expected course and should never have been on that course."

The pilot later said he thought Galy was farther south when he was in fact parallel to the plane.

"I think my flight path made sense," Alain said. "This has been the tragedy of my life, but I am not at fault."

https://currently.att.yahoo.com/news/fr ... 28287.html