The people allowed into Hong Kong are almost certainly not rural folk. I'm pretty sure China strictly controls this with their hukou system. Urban mainlanders are very unsophisticated.noddy wrote: the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.
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The bit I find amusing is that a not uncommon stereotype in Asia of Hong Kongers is that they are amongst the loudest, rudest, and generally most obnoxious.noddy wrote:the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.Typhoon wrote: Hong Kong people have had enough!
Because we understand that you are victimized by poisonous milk powder, we’ve tolerated you coming to panic buy milk powder;
Because we understand that you have no freedom, we’ve welcome you to “travel freely” to Hong Kong;
Because we understand that your education is backwards, we’ve shared our educational resources with you;
Because we understand that you don’t read complete [traditional] Chinese characters, we’ve used crippled [simplified] Chinese characters below:
“When coming to Hong Kong, please respect local culture, [because] if it weren’t for Hong Kong, you would all be doomed.”
Strongly demand that the government revise the Article 24 of Basic Law!
Stop mainland “double negative” pregnant women from limitless invasion of Hong Kong!
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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ive had not that much todo with them, just assumed it was another pseudo anglican boarding school like singaporeTyphoon wrote:The bit I find amusing is that a not uncommon stereotype in Asia of Hong Kongers is that they are amongst the loudest, rudest, and generally most obnoxious.noddy wrote:the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.Typhoon wrote: Hong Kong people have had enough!
Because we understand that you are victimized by poisonous milk powder, we’ve tolerated you coming to panic buy milk powder;
Because we understand that you have no freedom, we’ve welcome you to “travel freely” to Hong Kong;
Because we understand that your education is backwards, we’ve shared our educational resources with you;
Because we understand that you don’t read complete [traditional] Chinese characters, we’ve used crippled [simplified] Chinese characters below:
“When coming to Hong Kong, please respect local culture, [because] if it weren’t for Hong Kong, you would all be doomed.”
Strongly demand that the government revise the Article 24 of Basic Law!
Stop mainland “double negative” pregnant women from limitless invasion of Hong Kong!
this article lends weight to that assumption
ultracrepidarian
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Pining for their former headmaster to return . . .noddy wrote:ive had not that much todo with them, just assumed it was another pseudo anglican boarding school like singaporeTyphoon wrote:The bit I find amusing is that a not uncommon stereotype in Asia of Hong Kongers is that they are amongst the loudest, rudest, and generally most obnoxious.noddy wrote:the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.Typhoon wrote: Hong Kong people have had enough!
Because we understand that you are victimized by poisonous milk powder, we’ve tolerated you coming to panic buy milk powder;
Because we understand that you have no freedom, we’ve welcome you to “travel freely” to Hong Kong;
Because we understand that your education is backwards, we’ve shared our educational resources with you;
Because we understand that you don’t read complete [traditional] Chinese characters, we’ve used crippled [simplified] Chinese characters below:
“When coming to Hong Kong, please respect local culture, [because] if it weren’t for Hong Kong, you would all be doomed.”
Strongly demand that the government revise the Article 24 of Basic Law!
Stop mainland “double negative” pregnant women from limitless invasion of Hong Kong!
this article lends weight to that assumption
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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Typhoon wrote:The bit I find amusing is that a not uncommon stereotype in Asia of Hong Kongers is that they are amongst the loudest, rudest, and generally most obnoxious.noddy wrote:the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.Typhoon wrote: Hong Kong people have had enough!
Because we understand that you are victimized by poisonous milk powder, we’ve tolerated you coming to panic buy milk powder;
Because we understand that you have no freedom, we’ve welcome you to “travel freely” to Hong Kong;
Because we understand that your education is backwards, we’ve shared our educational resources with you;
Because we understand that you don’t read complete [traditional] Chinese characters, we’ve used crippled [simplified] Chinese characters below:
“When coming to Hong Kong, please respect local culture, [because] if it weren’t for Hong Kong, you would all be doomed.”
Strongly demand that the government revise the Article 24 of Basic Law!
Stop mainland “double negative” pregnant women from limitless invasion of Hong Kong!
Hong Kong is the Asian New York, with all the good and bad things that entails. But they are also declining in relative importance every day. They need the money the mainland nouveau riche pour into their economy every day.
Macau is a lot more philosophical about it.
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That's because markets are no longer centered in one city anymore. The market is the internet.Ibrahim wrote:Typhoon wrote:The bit I find amusing is that a not uncommon stereotype in Asia of Hong Kongers is that they are amongst the loudest, rudest, and generally most obnoxious.noddy wrote:the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.Typhoon wrote: Hong Kong people have had enough!
Because we understand that you are victimized by poisonous milk powder, we’ve tolerated you coming to panic buy milk powder;
Because we understand that you have no freedom, we’ve welcome you to “travel freely” to Hong Kong;
Because we understand that your education is backwards, we’ve shared our educational resources with you;
Because we understand that you don’t read complete [traditional] Chinese characters, we’ve used crippled [simplified] Chinese characters below:
“When coming to Hong Kong, please respect local culture, [because] if it weren’t for Hong Kong, you would all be doomed.”
Strongly demand that the government revise the Article 24 of Basic Law!
Stop mainland “double negative” pregnant women from limitless invasion of Hong Kong!
Hong Kong is the Asian New York, with all the good and bad things that entails. But they are also declining in relative importance every day. They need the money the mainland nouveau riche pour into their economy every day.
Macau is a lot more philosophical about it.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
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I would say its because the industrial might of China is located on the mainland, as are the people who control it. That's where the money is, and mainland Chinese come to Hong Kong to spend it on luxury goods, or to Macau to dump it in the casinos. Hong Kong was so much more prominent and important 20 or 30 years ago, and its hard for the locals to let it go. Still a great city though.Enki wrote:That's because markets are no longer centered in one city anymore. The market is the internet.Ibrahim wrote:Typhoon wrote:The bit I find amusing is that a not uncommon stereotype in Asia of Hong Kongers is that they are amongst the loudest, rudest, and generally most obnoxious.noddy wrote:the joys of mixing simple rural folk with urban middle class sophisticates.Typhoon wrote: Hong Kong people have had enough!
Because we understand that you are victimized by poisonous milk powder, we’ve tolerated you coming to panic buy milk powder;
Because we understand that you have no freedom, we’ve welcome you to “travel freely” to Hong Kong;
Because we understand that your education is backwards, we’ve shared our educational resources with you;
Because we understand that you don’t read complete [traditional] Chinese characters, we’ve used crippled [simplified] Chinese characters below:
“When coming to Hong Kong, please respect local culture, [because] if it weren’t for Hong Kong, you would all be doomed.”
Strongly demand that the government revise the Article 24 of Basic Law!
Stop mainland “double negative” pregnant women from limitless invasion of Hong Kong!
Hong Kong is the Asian New York, with all the good and bad things that entails. But they are also declining in relative importance every day. They need the money the mainland nouveau riche pour into their economy every day.
Macau is a lot more philosophical about it.
Re: Asia
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WSJ - A growing number of foreign-exchange traders and investors say the era of the strong yen may be drawing to a close, pointing to the currency's sharp fall following Tuesday's policy move by the Bank of Japan as the latest sign that traders are now looking for reasons to sell the haven favorite
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Typhoon wrote:.
. . record high value of the JP Yen - if Japan is facing imminent demise, then why people willing to pay top dollar for the Yen ?
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WSJ - A growing number of foreign-exchange traders and investors say the era of the strong yen may be drawing to a close, pointing to the currency's sharp fall following Tuesday's policy move by the Bank of Japan as the latest sign that traders are now looking for reasons to sell the haven favorite
Well, Colonel.
"What astonishes me is that investors in London are [now regularly] very active in selling the yen, even after midnight," said a senior dealer at a major Japanese bank. "That is very unusual."
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The near historic high JPY is a problem, it would be better if it was lower relative to other major currencies.AzariLoveIran wrote:.
Typhoon wrote:.
. . record high value of the JP Yen - if Japan is facing imminent demise, then why people willing to pay top dollar for the Yen ?
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WSJ - A growing number of foreign-exchange traders and investors say the era of the strong yen may be drawing to a close, pointing to the currency's sharp fall following Tuesday's policy move by the Bank of Japan as the latest sign that traders are now looking for reasons to sell the haven favorite
Well, Colonel.
"What astonishes me is that investors in London are [now regularly] very active in selling the yen, even after midnight," said a senior dealer at a major Japanese bank. "That is very unusual."
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May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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The Yuan is still artificially low, but its slight increase in the last few years is really starting to tell on Chinese exports. Re: electronics manufacture they are glad the Yen and Won have also kept pace.Typhoon wrote:
The near historic high JPY is a problem, it would be better if it was lower relative to other major currencies.
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The market, the guys in London and Frankfurt, do not care whether high or low Yes is good for JapanTyphoon wrote:The near historic high JPY is a problem, it would be better if it was lower relative to other major currencies.AzariLoveIran wrote:.
Typhoon wrote:.
. . record high value of the JP Yen - if Japan is facing imminent demise, then why people willing to pay top dollar for the Yen ?
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WSJ - A growing number of foreign-exchange traders and investors say the era of the strong yen may be drawing to a close, pointing to the currency's sharp fall following Tuesday's policy move by the Bank of Japan as the latest sign that traders are now looking for reasons to sell the haven favorite
Well, Colonel.
"What astonishes me is that investors in London are [now regularly] very active in selling the yen, even after midnight," said a senior dealer at a major Japanese bank. "That is very unusual."
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what they care (to make profit), is, (key in defining currency values) the "capital flow" .. whether capital leaving or entering Japan .. demand for Yen
Weakening Yen means capital leaving Japan .. that means Japan now less and less attractive for capital
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question is
why capital leaving Japan .. why Japan not anymore attractive for capital ?
many reason for that
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You are far giving too much weight to recent short term fluctuations:AzariLoveIran wrote:The market, the guys in London and Frankfurt, do not care whether high or low Yes is good for JapanTyphoon wrote:The near historic high JPY is a problem, it would be better if it was lower relative to other major currencies.AzariLoveIran wrote:.
Typhoon wrote:.
. . record high value of the JP Yen - if Japan is facing imminent demise, then why people willing to pay top dollar for the Yen ?
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WSJ - A growing number of foreign-exchange traders and investors say the era of the strong yen may be drawing to a close, pointing to the currency's sharp fall following Tuesday's policy move by the Bank of Japan as the latest sign that traders are now looking for reasons to sell the haven favorite
Well, Colonel.
"What astonishes me is that investors in London are [now regularly] very active in selling the yen, even after midnight," said a senior dealer at a major Japanese bank. "That is very unusual."
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what they care (to make profit), is, (key in defining currency values) the "capital flow" .. whether capital leaving or entering Japan .. demand for Yen
Weakening Yen means capital leaving Japan .. that means Japan now less and less attractive for capital
and
question is
why capital leaving Japan .. why Japan not anymore attractive for capital ?
many reason for that
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The JPY is at near historical highs relative to the US dollar.
The last time the JPY was so strong was during the J-Bubble Economy
back when Western pundits were falling over each other in their rush to proclaim Japan as the next great number one [economic] superpower.
Mistaking what one would like or hope to happen with what is is rarely, if ever, informative and/or profitable.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
The China Thread
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Why China’s Political Model Is Superior
Very interesting NYT article
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Why China’s Political Model Is Superior
Very interesting NYT article
Athenian democracy in reality no democracy.
America and China view their political systems in fundamentally different ways : whereas America sees democratic government as an end in itself, China sees its current form of government, or any political system for that matter, merely as a means to achieving larger national ends.
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I can recall, back in the late 1980's, when the NYT and the Atlantic had no lack of featured pundits explaining to their readers the innate superiority of the Japanese Way.AzariLoveIran wrote:.
Why China’s Political Model Is Superior
Very interesting NYT article
Athenian democracy in reality no democracy.
America and China view their political systems in fundamentally different ways : whereas America sees democratic government as an end in itself, China sees its current form of government, or any political system for that matter, merely as a means to achieving larger national ends.
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It's déjà vu . . . all over again.
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While there are great differences in the details, Japan, Taiwan, S Korea, and China all started with the following on the road to becoming a modern industrial state:
starting out from a low point in national history,
a young workforce,
a very low cost of labour,
a competitive currency,
a emphasis on education - esp science and engineering,
a willingness to take on and complete large projects,
a historical culture of trade and commerce,
a historical culture of manufacturing,
national goals,
etc.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: The China Thread
Japan, or Korea, or Taiwan of today not where they today due to what's said aboveTyphoon wrote:.
While there are great differences in the details, Japan, Taiwan, S Korea, and China all started with the following on the road to becoming a modern industrial state:
starting out from a low point in national history,
a young workforce,
a very low cost of labour,
a competitive currency,
a emphasis on education - esp science and engineering,
a willingness to take on and complete large projects,
a historical culture of trade and commerce,
a historical culture of manufacturing,
national goals,
etc.
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Because of Cold War, Russia and China next door, America orchestrated a push for prosperity in that space
massive American capital, absolute opening of American/western market to imports from that space, military umbrella and and and
If not, if no China and Russia and no Cold war, that space would be even behind India now
Zero civilization and culture
that is why, since no cold war anymore, Japan downhill since .. no competitive advantage anymore
Taiwan same as china, same guys
Korea, a troubled country, though beautiful ladies
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If . . . if . . . if . . .AzariLoveIran wrote:Japan, or Korea, or Taiwan of today not where they today due to what's said aboveTyphoon wrote:.
While there are great differences in the details, Japan, Taiwan, S Korea, and China all started with the following on the road to becoming a modern industrial state:
starting out from a low point in national history,
a young workforce,
a very low cost of labour,
a competitive currency,
a emphasis on education - esp science and engineering,
a willingness to take on and complete large projects,
a historical culture of trade and commerce,
a historical culture of manufacturing,
national goals,
etc.
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Because of Cold War, Russia and China next door, America orchestrated a push for prosperity in that space
massive American capital, absolute opening of American/western market to imports from that space, military umbrella and and and
If not, if no China and Russia and no Cold war, that space would be even behind India now
Zero civilization and culture
that is why, since no cold war anymore, Japan downhill since .. no competitive advantage anymore
Taiwan same as china, same guys
Korea, a troubled country, though beautiful ladies
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If my grandmother had balls, then she'd be my grandfather.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
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It is really bizarre to see someone say that one of the richest cultures in history has no culture. I don't really understand what he gets out of it.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
Re: The China Thread
probably your grandmother IS your grandfatherTyphoon wrote:.
If . . . if . . . if . . .
If my grandmother had balls, then she'd be my grandfather.
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those "if" behind us, in new world those "if" lost meaning
Japan must reinvent itself or will back to square one
come on EnkiEnki wrote:.
It is really bizarre to see someone say that one of the richest cultures in history has no culture. I don't really understand what he gets out of it.
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that space "one of the richest cultures in history" ! ! ! !
come on
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Indeed. The need to believe in one's own make believe is puzzling.Enki wrote:It is really bizarre to see someone say that one of the richest cultures in history has no culture. I don't really understand what he gets out of it.
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Re: The China Thread
Azari has a point. The East Asian "Tigers" would have been more like pussycats if they had not been allowed to export freely while restricting any imports they felt like restricting. Free trade for those countries was only one way.AzariLoveIran wrote: Japan, or Korea, or Taiwan of today not where they today due to what's said above
Because of Cold War, Russia and China next door, America orchestrated a push for prosperity in that space
massive American capital, absolute opening of American/western market to imports from that space, military umbrella and and and
If not, if no China and Russia and no Cold war, that space would be even behind India now
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The EU and US do not have restrictions on trade?Endovelico wrote:Azari has a point. The East Asian "Tigers" would have been more like pussycats if they had not been allowed to export freely while restricting any imports they felt like restricting. Free trade for those countries was only one way.AzariLoveIran wrote: Japan, or Korea, or Taiwan of today not where they today due to what's said above
Because of Cold War, Russia and China next door, America orchestrated a push for prosperity in that space
massive American capital, absolute opening of American/western market to imports from that space, military umbrella and and and
If not, if no China and Russia and no Cold war, that space would be even behind India now
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General Motors Co. earned $7.6 billion last year [2011], the highest profit in company history.
The iPhone is everywhere in Japan. The Windows OS is on most computers. ANA recently took delivery of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner.North American money machine: On its home turf, GM earned $7.2 billion before taxes last year. North American sales rose 11 percent because of newer models like the Chevrolet Cruze compact.
Asia strength. GM's International Operations, which include China and the rest of Asia, made a pretax profit of $1.9 billion. While down 16 percent from 2010, it's still strong. Sales in the region grew 7 percent.
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Japan's record trade deficit highlights weakening Chinese demand
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Japan's record trade deficit highlights weakening Chinese demand
YEN too expensive.
Chinese data shows sharp falls in imports from its main trading partners in January, . .
Japan has also been hit by declining demand elsewhere. Its trade surplus with the European Union shrank to its smallest ever, at just 689 million yen, as exports dipped 7.7 percent.
And as Asia's exports to Europe slumped due to the economic turmoil, so did Japan's exports of semiconductors and plastics to the rest of Asia, the MOF official said.
Japan's total trade deficit for January was 1.475 trillion yen, bigger than the median forecast of 1.468 trillion yen in a Reuters poll and more than 50 percent larger than the previous record of a 967.9 billion yen deficit in January 2009, in the wake of the global financial crisis.
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Gallup poll released on Monday
What a ZOOOOOOOOOOO
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Gallup poll released on Monday
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Iran topped the list of the biggest enemy to the U.S. with 32 percent of respondents, up from the 25 percent who selected Iran in a 2011 survey.
China is a relatively close second with 24 percent . .
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What a ZOOOOOOOOOOO
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Re: The China Thread
What?AzariLoveIran wrote:
Zero civilization and culture