Typhoon wrote:So it would appear that any blanket sweeping statements about aboriginal Canadians as a group have little meaning.
Some are doing quite well, others probably less so. My guess is that it varies greatly by tribe and by location.
A Liberal MP from Nova Scotia has paid a visit to the oilsands, saying that Alberta may be having struggles in accessing foreign markets but the province's crude is always welcome in the East.
Halifax West MP Geoff Regan says environmental concerns appear to be stalling approval of the Keystone XL pipeline to Texas and the Northern Gateway pipeline which would ship through B.C. for export to Asian countries.
But Regan says the struggling economies of Atlantic provinces would be encouraged by the notion of bringing Canadian oil eastward, where residents rely on Middle Eastern imports.
Calgary's TransCanada Corp. is studying the possibility of shipping as many as one million barrels a day of western crude to eastern refineries.
To do so, it would convert part of its natural gas mainline partly to oil service. CEO Russ Girling has called the project both technically and economically feasible.
Company officials have also said they don't expect to see a big environmental pushback because eastern Canadians are keenly aware of how such a plan would positively affect fuel prices where they live.
Regan also says competitive wages in the oilsands could put pressure on companies back east, such as Irving, to offer a bigger paycheque for skilled workers.
"The tradespeople will be saying, 'do I want to go home and work for $10 an hour less plus take a haircut on my benefits?'" said Regan.
"I think they're going to have to be competitive. Some people will want to stay home but still, when the opportunities still exist out here I think they're real and that's something that will have to factor in."
Regan also said there's a national benefit in terms of security of the oil supply.
"I think there is a strong interest in Atlantic Canada and in Eastern Canada generally in the idea of having access to Canadian oil," he said.
"The fact of the matter is that if there's a connection to the East coast, one of the important benefits of that for Alberta and for the oilsands is that you get the international price."
Typhoon wrote:A quick cursory search reveals that at some some Canadian aboriginal tribes are doing well
...
So it would appear that any blanket sweeping statements about aboriginal Canadians as a group have little meaning.
Some are doing quite well, others probably less so. My guess is that it varies greatly by tribe and by location.
John Baird, Canada’s Minister of Foreign Affairs, stood before the United Nations General Assembly in New York, Thursday and denounced a resolution recognizing a Palestinian state — which he knew was about to pass by a huge majority — while threatening possible repercussions from Canada.
Mr. Baird called the UN motion “utterly regrettable,” accused the UN of abandoning its “policy and principle” and dropped the veiled threat of unspecified actions Canada might take in response.
“The outstanding issues are too intricate and too complex to be resolved by symbolic, unilateral measures,” Mr. Baird said in his speech.
“The path to peace has historically rested in direct negotiations between the two parties to resolve the outstanding issues and it remains the same today.
“Will the Palestinian people be better off as a result? No. On the contrary, this unilateral step will harden positions and raise unrealistic expectations while doing nothing to improve the lives of the Palestinian people,” he said.
“It is for these reasons that Canada is voting against this resolution. As a result of this body’s utterly regrettable decision to abandon policy and principle, we will be considering all available next steps.”
This sounds like a much better deal for Canada as a whole than a pipeline to the South or West. More refining and value added jobs would stay in Canada rather than get exported with the oil and it would improve the economy and energy security of eastern Canada. It might even increase national cohesion, especially with respect to Quebec.Apollonius wrote:Interesting.
I am strongly opposed the Northern Gateway pipeline project. The Keystone route to Texas makes more sense. However, I have alway advocated a trans-national pipeline, which, astonishingly, does not yet exist. I see now that this alternative is being given some serious consideration:
MP says Alberta's oil welcomed in Atlantic provinces - CBC News, 17 November 2012
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2 ... antic.html
This particular embarrassment, which won't be soon forgotten, makes Canada look like an American island protectorate. The only countries besides Canada who followed Israel and her house goy are a handful of Pacific protectorates who receive much of their funding from the U.S. Treasury. At least they got paid for their votes. What did Canada get, besides the derisive laughter of the civilized World?Ibrahim wrote:Harper-era foreign policy has been a bit of a joke
Azrael wrote:This particular embarrassment, which won't be soon forgotten, makes Canada look like an American island protectorate. The only countries besides Canada who followed Israel and her house goy are a handful of Pacific protectorates who receive much of their funding from the U.S. Treasury. At least they got paid for their votes. What did Canada get, besides the derisive laughter of the civilized World?Ibrahim wrote:Harper-era foreign policy has been a bit of a joke
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Harper selling Canada to the Chinese Dragons but probably not intending to Deliver as I have been told here...... It plays in the sticks in Alberta, that's about it. I understand the Pacific nations, Israel buys them off for those votes and it doesn't really effect them anyway so why not? Frankly I think this practice makes Israel look rather pathetic, and I'll give those islands a pass. But there is really no excuse for the Canadian and US votes, nor Clinton's or Baird's absurd comments following the vote.Azrael wrote:This particular embarrassment, which won't be soon forgotten, makes Canada look like an American island protectorate. The only countries besides Canada who followed Israel and her house goy are a handful of Pacific protectorates who receive much of their funding from the U.S. Treasury. At least they got paid for their votes. What did Canada get, besides the derisive laughter of the civilized World?Ibrahim wrote:Harper-era foreign policy has been a bit of a joke
Most Canadians are embarrassed and utterly disgusted with what our Conservative government has done. Unfortunately, because of our ’First Past the Post’ electoral system and the bitter reality that a majority government can do anything they want, we can’t do much about it, at least not until the next elections. When that time comes, we promise to do our best to remove from power these fanatics who have shamed Canada and put us on the wrong side of history.
Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Was speaking to a Canadian friend about Harper government re Israel and and
He quite knowledgeable about Canadian politics (I am not)
He said, Harper and his gang are stanch "evangelist" and "Rapture" believers
what a disaster, in this day and age, people believing in such rubbish leading nations
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He said, Harper and his gang are stanch "evangelist" and "Rapture" believers
what a disaster, in this day and age, people believing in such rubbish leading nations
monster_gardener wrote:.
Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Was speaking to a Canadian friend about Harper government re Israel and and
He quite knowledgeable about Canadian politics (I am not)
He said, Harper and his gang are stanch "evangelist" and "Rapture" believers
what a disaster, in this day and age, people believing in such rubbish leading nations
.
He said, Harper and his gang are stanch "evangelist" and "Rapture" believers
what a disaster, in this day and age, people believing in such rubbish leading nations
How is believing that the Madhi will rise from the Well in Qom and lead the Shia to Victory if the Chaos Level rises high enough that much different in quality?
Especially If one doesn't have a Plan E for Evacuation Space Program to get you off planet if the Madhi doesn't come through and you keep tweaking the Chaos Level higher
I have heard tell that Ahmadinejad visited the Well in Qom and dropped the Madhi a message.........
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Thank You Very Much for your Post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:monster_gardener wrote:.
Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Was speaking to a Canadian friend about Harper government re Israel and and
He quite knowledgeable about Canadian politics (I am not)
He said, Harper and his gang are stanch "evangelist" and "Rapture" believers
what a disaster, in this day and age, people believing in such rubbish leading nations
.
He said, Harper and his gang are stanch "evangelist" and "Rapture" believers
what a disaster, in this day and age, people believing in such rubbish leading nations
How is believing that the Madhi will rise from the Well in Qom and lead the Shia to Victory if the Chaos Level rises high enough that much different in quality?
Especially If one doesn't have a Plan E for Evacuation Space Program to get you off planet if the Madhi doesn't come through and you keep tweaking the Chaos Level higher
I have heard tell that Ahmadinejad visited the Well in Qom and dropped the Madhi a message.........
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Yes, true, Ahmadinejat & friends, regularly, visit Mehdi (in Ghom) and throw messages & questions into the well (and receive answer to their questions) .. but .. all that a strategic political move, to energies those who going to fight you guys tooth and nail, those who walk on mines and and and .. otherwise, mad mullahs know their "Grotto" no Fatima of Lourdes, doing miracles on the fly (Similar appearances of the "lady" were reported on seventeen further occasions that year.)
not so Harper & friends
They really in earnest believe in that crap .. they really into that garbage
you see the difference, Monster ? ?
one genius strategist (facts on the ground attest this), the other durian
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oops I mean Republic of Gilead Hierarchy in the Handmaid Timeline was that way too..... got what they so richly deserved......... Ahmadinejat & friends, regularly, visit Mehdi (in Ghom) and throw messages & questions into the well (and receive answer to their questions)
Are the answers that AhMad(and receive answer to their questions)
& his buddies get published or kept as state secrets till after the prophecy is fulfilled monster_gardener wrote:.
Crocus sativus wrote:.
Yes, true, Ahmadinejat & friends, regularly, visit Mehdi (in Ghom) and throw messages & questions into the well (and receive answer to their questions) .. but .. all that a strategic political move, to energies those who going to fight you guys tooth and nail, those who walk on mines and and and .. otherwise, mad mullahs know their "Grotto" no Fatima of Lourdes, doing miracles on the fly (Similar appearances of the "lady" were reported on seventeen further occasions that year.)
not so Harper & friends
They really in earnest believe in that crap .. they really into that garbage
you see the difference, Monster ? ?
one genius strategist (facts on the ground attest this), the other durian
.
Thanks for the explanation........
Sounds a bit dangerous .......
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.. AND ? ? result was, Russia broke Hitlers back .. same idea now with Mahdi 
From 5 October 1941 he led the redesignated Second Panzer Army. His armoured spearhead captured Smolensk in a remarkably short time and was poised to launch the final assault on Moscow when he was ordered to turn south towards Kiev (see Lötzen decision).
He protested against Hitler's decision and as a result lost the Führer's confidence.[citation needed] He was relieved of his command on 25 December 1941 after Feldmarschall Günther von Kluge, not noted for his ability to face up to Hitler,[citation needed] claimed that Guderian had ordered a withdrawal in contradiction of Hitler's "stand fast" order. Guderian was transferred to the Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) reserve pool, his chances of being promoted to Feldmarschall, which depended on Hitler's personal decision, possibly ruined forever.
Guderian would deny that he ordered any kind of withdrawal[citation needed]. Ironically this act of apparent insubordination is cited by his admirers as further proof of his independence of spirit when dealing with Hitler. Guderian's own view on the matter was that he had been victimized by von Kluge who was the commanding officer when German troops came to a standstill at the Moscow front in late autumn/winter 1941. At some point he so provoked von Kluge with accusations related to his dismissal that the field marshal challenged him to a duel, which Hitler forbade.
monster_gardener wrote:.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Ahmadinejat & friends, regularly, visit Mehdi (in Ghom) and throw messages & questions into the well (and receive answer to their questions)
.Are the answers that AhMad(and receive answer to their questions)
.
Thank You VERY Much for your Reply, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:monster_gardener wrote:.
Crocus sativus wrote:.
Yes, true, Ahmadinejat & friends, regularly, visit Mehdi (in Ghom) and throw messages & questions into the well (and receive answer to their questions) .. but .. all that a strategic political move, to energies those who going to fight you guys tooth and nail, those who walk on mines and and and .. otherwise, mad mullahs know their "Grotto" no Fatima of Lourdes, doing miracles on the fly (Similar appearances of the "lady" were reported on seventeen further occasions that year.)
not so Harper & friends
They really in earnest believe in that crap .. they really into that garbage
you see the difference, Monster ? ?
one genius strategist (facts on the ground attest this), the other durian
.
Thanks for the explanation........
Sounds a bit dangerous .......
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When "Der schnelle Heinz" stood with his 2nd Panzer Army in outskirt of Moscow threatening Moscow, what did Dzhugashvili do ? ? .. he ordered "Imperial Russian Tzarist Music played on Radio"
Adolf should have listened to Guderian, was a mistake
From 5 October 1941 he led the redesignated Second Panzer Army. His armoured spearhead captured Smolensk in a remarkably short time and was poised to launch the final assault on Moscow when he was ordered to turn south towards Kiev (see Lötzen decision).
He protested against Hitler's decision and as a result lost the Führer's confidence.[citation needed] He was relieved of his command on 25 December 1941 after Feldmarschall Günther von Kluge, not noted for his ability to face up to Hitler,[citation needed] claimed that Guderian had ordered a withdrawal in contradiction of Hitler's "stand fast" order. Guderian was transferred to the Oberkommando des Heeres (OKH) reserve pool, his chances of being promoted to Feldmarschall, which depended on Hitler's personal decision, possibly ruined forever.
Guderian would deny that he ordered any kind of withdrawal[citation needed]. Ironically this act of apparent insubordination is cited by his admirers as further proof of his independence of spirit when dealing with Hitler. Guderian's own view on the matter was that he had been victimized by von Kluge who was the commanding officer when German troops came to a standstill at the Moscow front in late autumn/winter 1941. At some point he so provoked von Kluge with accusations related to his dismissal that the field marshal challenged him to a duel, which Hitler forbade.
W. made the same (military) mistake as Adolf, unless things more than what meets the eye
monster_gardener wrote:.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Ahmadinejat & friends, regularly, visit Mehdi (in Ghom) and throw messages & questions into the well (and receive answer to their questions)
.Are the answers that AhMad(and receive answer to their questions)
.
State secret ? ?
like saying Stalin ordering "Imperial Russian music on Radio" just for a few to hear
would miss the purpose
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Point taken but would Stalin order "Imperial" Russian Music?like saying Stalin ordering "Imperial Russian music on Radio" just for a few to hear
Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Mr. Harper is pandering to those who believe that Jesus’ Second Coming is tied to Israel’s survival.
No, I do not think so
Canadian foreign policy, like any other country, is a long term national policy, it does not change with conservatives or liberals or even socialist (NDP) on the power .. and .. no Canadian politician, neither from
left nor right or even center, has raised voice against sudden Canadian Israel policy shift .. Canada had to
be stupid not to know that only Israel, US and Canada would vote no to Palestinian statehood
that "Rupture" just rubbish .. and .. Chingiz Khan would be standing left of Alberta conservatives
so
what is the reason for sudden Canadian love with Israel ? ?
My take, Canada signaling to Zionist, don't worry, when time to pack and leave, they welcome in Canada
Canada has now 390K Jews .. pretty much all South African Jews came to Canada
.
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monster_gardener wrote:.Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Mr. Harper is pandering to those who believe that Jesus’ Second Coming is tied to Israel’s survival.
No, I do not think so
Canadian foreign policy, like any other country, is a long term national policy, it does not change with conservatives or liberals or even socialist (NDP) on the power .. and .. no Canadian politician, neither from
left nor right or even center, has raised voice against sudden Canadian Israel policy shift .. Canada had to
be stupid not to know that only Israel, US and Canada would vote no to Palestinian statehood
that "Rupture" just rubbish .. and .. Chingiz Khan would be standing left of Alberta conservatives
so
what is the reason for sudden Canadian love with Israel ? ?
My take, Canada signaling to Zionist, don't worry, when time to pack and leave, they welcome in Canada
Canada has now 390K Jews .. pretty much all South African Jews came to Canada
.
You may well be right, Azari.
This reminds me of the book "Japan Sinks"......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Sinks
Japan had to find countries to take its people as Japan became uninhabitable...
IIRC it didn't have too much of a problem in the book...
Lot's of nations wanted to have the talented Japanese as citizens.......
And get their hands on Japan tech and patents........
I imagine something that could happen if Israel became uninhabitable for almost any reason be it......
Infestation with Red Hot HAMAssed Pali Proctologists
Or The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man in the Moon Marigolds....
Tinker has advocated Uz taking in the Iz.....
And Mr. Perfect IIRC has said that it would be a plus for Uz......
I'm not opposed if that is what the Iz want......
OTOH hand I note that the Pali Muslim Chaos Monkeys have had major problems getting many of their Muslim Brother Chaos Monkeys to take them in......
And that when they have they have caused much trouble for some of those who did.........
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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:monster_gardener wrote:.Thank you Very MUCH for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Mr. Harper is pandering to those who believe that Jesus’ Second Coming is tied to Israel’s survival.
No, I do not think so
Canadian foreign policy, like any other country, is a long term national policy, it does not change with conservatives or liberals or even socialist (NDP) on the power .. and .. no Canadian politician, neither from
left nor right or even center, has raised voice against sudden Canadian Israel policy shift .. Canada had to
be stupid not to know that only Israel, US and Canada would vote no to Palestinian statehood
that "Rupture" just rubbish .. and .. Chingiz Khan would be standing left of Alberta conservatives
so
what is the reason for sudden Canadian love with Israel ? ?
My take, Canada signaling to Zionist, don't worry, when time to pack and leave, they welcome in Canada
Canada has now 390K Jews .. pretty much all South African Jews came to Canada
.
You may well be right, Azari.
This reminds me of the book "Japan Sinks"......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Sinks
Japan had to find countries to take its people as Japan became uninhabitable...
IIRC it didn't have too much of a problem in the book...
Lot's of nations wanted to have the talented Japanese as citizens.......
And get their hands on Japan tech and patents........
I imagine something that could happen if Israel became uninhabitable for almost any reason be it......
Infestation with Red Hot HAMAssed Pali Proctologists
Or The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man in the Moon Marigolds....
Tinker has advocated Uz taking in the Iz.....
And Mr. Perfect IIRC has said that it would be a plus for Uz......
I'm not opposed if that is what the Iz want......
OTOH hand I note that the Pali Muslim Chaos Monkeys have had major problems getting many of their Muslim Brother Chaos Monkeys to take them in......
And that when they have they have caused much trouble for some of those who did.........
.
Monster, no denying (western) Rhubarb prospers best in mids of GOYS .. the GOYer the herd, the better Rhubarb perform
And , Canada a fertile territory
but,
that not the whole story
American Rhubarb, might feel unease, feel the heat .. maybe better move to Toronto B4 that American RedNeck had it
and
most of all
You guys broke, no money
but
Canada swimming in money, for generations to come
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Climate of Uz, I suspect that some of my friends who are Middle Eastern Jews would prefer Uz so as not to be in cold Mizari Canada...?? .......... Looney Sunni Remover if you try that... monster_gardener wrote:Crocus sativus wrote:monster_gardener wrote:.Thank you Very MUCH for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:.
Mr. Harper is pandering to those who believe that Jesus’ Second Coming is tied to Israel’s survival.
No, I do not think so
Canadian foreign policy, like any other country, is a long term national policy, it does not change with conservatives or liberals or even socialist (NDP) on the power .. and .. no Canadian politician, neither from
left nor right or even center, has raised voice against sudden Canadian Israel policy shift .. Canada had to
be stupid not to know that only Israel, US and Canada would vote no to Palestinian statehood
that "Rupture" just rubbish .. and .. Chingiz Khan would be standing left of Alberta conservatives
so
what is the reason for sudden Canadian love with Israel ? ?
My take, Canada signaling to Zionist, don't worry, when time to pack and leave, they welcome in Canada
Canada has now 390K Jews .. pretty much all South African Jews came to Canada
.
You may well be right, Azari.
This reminds me of the book "Japan Sinks"......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan_Sinks
Japan had to find countries to take its people as Japan became uninhabitable...
IIRC it didn't have too much of a problem in the book...
Lot's of nations wanted to have the talented Japanese as citizens.......
And get their hands on Japan tech and patents........
I imagine something that could happen if Israel became uninhabitable for almost any reason be it......
Infestation with Red Hot HAMAssed Pali Proctologists
Or The Effect of Gamma Rays on Man in the Moon Marigolds....
Tinker has advocated Uz taking in the Iz.....
And Mr. Perfect IIRC has said that it would be a plus for Uz......
I'm not opposed if that is what the Iz want......
OTOH hand I note that the Pali Muslim Chaos Monkeys have had major problems getting many of their Muslim Brother Chaos Monkeys to take them in......
And that when they have they have caused much trouble for some of those who did.........
.
Monster, no denying (western) Rhubarb prospers best in mids of GOYS .. the GOYer the herd, the better Rhubarb perform
And , Canada a fertile territory
but,
that not the whole story
American Rhubarb, might feel unease, feel the heat .. maybe better move to Toronto B4 that American RedNeck had it
and
most of all
You guys broke, no money
but
Canada swimming in money, for generations to come
.
Can Azari Survive an Dizzy Izzy
How will Azari manage to stay in Canada and survive this huge influx as I understand you of 'evil' "worst than Nazi" 'European & Russian' "Zionist criminals"
Will have to flee back to Iran.........??
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Typhoon wrote:.
This is the Canada thread.
It is not the ME section or the conspiracy theory thread.
Learn by example from the Canadians and get along.
Off topic posts will from now on be sent to the Hell they so richly deserve.
.
Crocus sativus wrote:Typhoon wrote:.
This is the Canada thread.
It is not the ME section or the conspiracy theory thread.
Learn by example from the Canadians and get along.
Off topic posts will from now on be sent to the Hell they so richly deserve.
.
come on, colonel, come on
this about new immigrants to Canada
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