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- Nonc Hilaire
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Pope Francis is not saying anything new or changing anything about Roman Catholicism. He is simply moving the public discussion back to pre-Christian roots so he can reach more people and refresh the Church on spiritual fundamentals.
I see him as a revivalist working to rebuild faith from the ground up and not as a reformer making sweeping changes in theology or praxis. A good and necessary plan for a pope, imho. If he was to extend his homilies to the max I'm sure he would end up preaching orthodox Roman Catholic dogma.
This is very much the way Jesus was described preaching in Matthew. He spoke to get the crowds to question their spirituality but not to tell them what to think. He would withdraw after public appearances and let the apostles explain and discuss with the crowds in smaller groups. Francis is working much the same way.
I see him as a revivalist working to rebuild faith from the ground up and not as a reformer making sweeping changes in theology or praxis. A good and necessary plan for a pope, imho. If he was to extend his homilies to the max I'm sure he would end up preaching orthodox Roman Catholic dogma.
This is very much the way Jesus was described preaching in Matthew. He spoke to get the crowds to question their spirituality but not to tell them what to think. He would withdraw after public appearances and let the apostles explain and discuss with the crowds in smaller groups. Francis is working much the same way.
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Teresa of Ávila
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Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
yep, thats what i was trying to get at, expressed more clearly.
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Well said Nonc,
Use current events to get the masses to think about timeless concepts....... Mark of an effective teacher!
Use current events to get the masses to think about timeless concepts....... Mark of an effective teacher!
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
Nonc Hilaire wrote:I hear this whole thing started with just two gay Irishmen.
Michael Fitzpatrick and Patrick Fitzmichael.
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Eloquently said.Nonc Hilaire wrote:Pope Francis is not saying anything new or changing anything about Roman Catholicism. He is simply moving the public discussion back to pre-Christian roots so he can reach more people and refresh the Church on spiritual fundamentals.
I see him as a revivalist working to rebuild faith from the ground up and not as a reformer making sweeping changes in theology or praxis. A good and necessary plan for a pope, imho. If he was to extend his homilies to the max I'm sure he would end up preaching orthodox Roman Catholic dogma.
This is very much the way Jesus was described preaching in Matthew. He spoke to get the crowds to question their spirituality but not to tell them what to think. He would withdraw after public appearances and let the apostles explain and discuss with the crowds in smaller groups. Francis is working much the same way.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Re: Steers and Queers | The Homosexuality Issue
BBC | US Supreme Court rules gay marriage is legal nationwide
It means the 14 states with bans on same-sex marriage will no longer be able to enforce them.
Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote that the plaintiffs asked "for equal dignity in the eyes of the law. The Constitution grants them that right."
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- Nonc Hilaire
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Good and necessary, but I am still astounded that we have gay marriage and not an ERA.
That's perverse.
That's perverse.
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I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
What happened?
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The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:Good and necessary, but I am still astounded that we have gay marriage and not an ERA.
That's perverse.
Interesting that adoption of ERA has historically been blocked by women.Wikipedia.
The Equal Rights Amendment (ERA) was a proposed amendment to the United States Constitution designed to guarantee equal rights for women. The ERA was originally written by Alice Paul and Crystal Eastman. In 1923, it was introduced in the Congress for the first time. From the first, the ERA was highly controversial in terms of the meaning of equality for women. It was "feminist against feminist," says historian Judith Sealander; the result was the eventual defeat of the ERA.[1] Middle-class women generally were supportive. Spokesmen for the working class were strongly opposed, arguing that employed women needed special protections regarding working conditions and hours. In 1972, it passed both houses of Congress and was submitted to the state legislatures for ratification. It seemed headed for quick approval until Phyllis Schlafly mobilized conservative women in opposition, arguing that the ERA would disadvantage housewives.
Congress had set a ratification deadline of March 22, 1979. Through 1977, the amendment received 35 of the necessary 38 state ratifications. Five states later rescinded their ratifications before the 1979 deadline. In 1978, a joint resolution of Congress extended the ratification deadline to June 30, 1982, but no further states ratified the amendment and it died. Several feminist organizations continue to work for the adoption of the ERA.
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What does type of culture does the US have then?Nonc Hilaire wrote:The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
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Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.Typhoon wrote:What does type of culture does the US have then?Nonc Hilaire wrote:The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
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Teresa of Ávila
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Well said. This agrees with my own observations. Often a move of ten or fifteen miles can place one in a different culture. Paraphrasing Tip O'Neal "All politics (along with culture and weather) is local!"Nonc Hilaire wrote:Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.Typhoon wrote:What does type of culture does the US have then?Nonc Hilaire wrote:The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
Either the central planners are blind to this, or they see it as an impediment to their power that must be over come.
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Understood.Nonc Hilaire wrote:Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.Typhoon wrote:What does type of culture does the US have then?Nonc Hilaire wrote:The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
[ I thought that New Orleans certainly had/has a distinct culture, and I'm not referring to the now tourist district of French Quarter.
Likewise Chicago. ]
Now that I think about it, labeling social conservatives or so-called progressives as cultures would be misnomers as both are nothing more than self-appointed would-be altruists intent on minding other people's lives.
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WSJ | [US] Public's Shift on Same-Sex Marriage Was Swift, Broad
A friend informs that after the SCOTUS announcement, people were apparently tweeting "That's it, I'm moving to Canada".
To which the Canadians tweeted back, "No, thank you. Sorry." and "Fyi, gay marriage has been legal across Canada for over a decade."
Well, if the US survived the SCOTUS decision permitting miscegenation between the general, mainly white, heterosexual population and the 13.2% black minority*, the US will also probably survive permitting some 1.3% of the population to marry each other.
*given the genetic makeup of the US black population, a more accurate characterization would be that SCOTUS simply made it official.
If the US does not survive this, then future historians will conclude that it was not much of a nation to begin with.
It had it's moments of great brilliance, but was derailed by obsessing about pissant issues.
A friend informs that after the SCOTUS announcement, people were apparently tweeting "That's it, I'm moving to Canada".
To which the Canadians tweeted back, "No, thank you. Sorry." and "Fyi, gay marriage has been legal across Canada for over a decade."
Well, if the US survived the SCOTUS decision permitting miscegenation between the general, mainly white, heterosexual population and the 13.2% black minority*, the US will also probably survive permitting some 1.3% of the population to marry each other.
*given the genetic makeup of the US black population, a more accurate characterization would be that SCOTUS simply made it official.
If the US does not survive this, then future historians will conclude that it was not much of a nation to begin with.
It had it's moments of great brilliance, but was derailed by obsessing about pissant issues.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
- Yukon Cornelius
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I think it's degenerated to tribalism of a sort -- history is dead, so I don't seem another option.Typhoon wrote:What does type of culture does the US have then?Nonc Hilaire wrote:The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
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Louisiana has lots of authentic cultures, but I would not generalize them asTyphoon wrote:Understood.Nonc Hilaire wrote:Lots of competing subcultures, plus a media-driven nationalism that sometimes passes for culture. Many U.S. cities have a culture, but I don't see a U.S. culture.Typhoon wrote:What does type of culture does the US have then?Nonc Hilaire wrote:The US has no authentic culture.Typhoon wrote:I was repeatedly informed that demographics guaranteed that a conservative cultural tsunami was going to sweep over the USA.
What happened?
[ I thought that New Orleans certainly had/has a distinct culture, and I'm not referring to the now tourist district of French Quarter.
Likewise Chicago. ]
Now that I think about it, labeling social conservatives or so-called progressives as cultures would be misnomers as both are nothing more than self-appointed would-be altruists intent on minding other people's lives.
"American". Very geographically specific.
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Transgender
I don't know which forum to put this in, so if mods want to move it I'm amenable.
I'm sort of squeamish, so I'll beat around the bush but you should get the drift. I'm doing this in a liberal forum because I want to know what poster here think.
Transgender (internet)
A sex change apparently is not what make you tranny
Transgender is the state of one's gender identity or gender expression not matching one's assigned sex.[1] Transgender is independent of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual, etc; some may consider conventional sexual orientation labels inadequate or inapplicable to them. The definition of transgender includes:
Just if you feel different than what is happening between the legs.
So my questions:
1) is what is the word for sex change.
2) What "rights" do trannies not have
3) I accidentally came across information on sex changes. Basically, it's all make believe. A man cannot become woman, physically, and vice versa. So why do I have to pretend men can turn into women and vice versa when they cannot.
I'm sort of squeamish, so I'll beat around the bush but you should get the drift. I'm doing this in a liberal forum because I want to know what poster here think.
Transgender (internet)
A sex change apparently is not what make you tranny
Transgender is the state of one's gender identity or gender expression not matching one's assigned sex.[1] Transgender is independent of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, asexual, etc; some may consider conventional sexual orientation labels inadequate or inapplicable to them. The definition of transgender includes:
Just if you feel different than what is happening between the legs.
So my questions:
1) is what is the word for sex change.
2) What "rights" do trannies not have
3) I accidentally came across information on sex changes. Basically, it's all make believe. A man cannot become woman, physically, and vice versa. So why do I have to pretend men can turn into women and vice versa when they cannot.
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Try Reddit or Tumblr.
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For the answers you seek, obviously.
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
The Kushner sh*t is greasy - Stevie B.
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Couldn't find 'em. Since we have some sophisticated transphiliacs around here, thought you would love the opportunity to spread your knowledge.
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“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
The Kushner sh*t is greasy - Stevie B.
The Kushner sh*t is greasy - Stevie B.
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Couldn't find the answers, there or anywhere. Here is your chance to spread truth. I have no idea why you are stalling.
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Try harder.
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
The Kushner sh*t is greasy - Stevie B.
The Kushner sh*t is greasy - Stevie B.