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Simple Minded wrote:MFF,

That post reads like a "woke" Monty Python skit. Or a lame person gaining the ability to walk when the preacher slaps him on the head and yells "DEVIL GO OUT!!!"

This dude is sharp. I think I can predict the title of Roosh's next book.

How Pretending to be Sensitive and Woke Gets You Laid a LOT MORE Than Acting Like a Misogynist Asshole.

Probably will earn big $ from speaking at all sorts of woke/feminist groups for several years.

We'll find out................

as a general rule i think the mgtow thing, like the incel thing, is the usual bunch of barflies that have always existed but never had a platform before, best ignored unless they leave their dark corner of the pub.

I actually saw a funny meme from that neck of the whining woods tho, in relatation to abortion and the arch feminist dogma around that topic.

"how do you make a feminist talk like a pro life conservative ? bring up paperwork abortions for young men who want out for the same reasons"

I still say it's not really a thing. It's a specter invented by people with ulterior motives; and latched on to by a small number of people who flit in and out of marginal groups. What is the difference between the nu-age crystal astrology crowd and them?

Aggression or the possibility of it? Sure, well maybe...I can imagine arguments for that in several directions. But one has to be delusional to also not see the poisoned well propaganda. Exceptions to the rule nutsos- the guy in Toronto, the Elliot Rodgers of the world- don't make a movement. And if that is the insistence for the rule, well; I don't see how that doesn't lead to a lot of other fraught conversations about dangerous groups. And it underappreciated that sub-cultural phenomena (as far as it exists) often harbors a lot of...negativity...for a variety of reasons.

Others are more nebulous and rely too heavily on cant and socially approved terms of abuse...in other words they don't mean anything except what the author or speaker contrives during improvisation. A lot of it, like the articles MFF posted, are really just calls to piety.

Calls to piety, of course, run in all directions.

What is underreported in all of these conceptualizations is just how nerdy the whole exercise is.

The MGTOW crowd that I know are a bunch of nerds or dorks or geeks (or however you want to parse these groups).

In an age where mass culture caters to "nerds"-- every issue is browbeaten in a way only nerds can get behind.

NapLajoieonSteroids wrote:

In an age where mass culture caters to "nerds"-- every issue is browbeaten in a way only nerds can get behind.

I thought that was the crux of the problem, whiny nerds on the internet who ain't gettin no behind?

I thought socialist solved this problem long ago. Isn't that why Karl Marx invented masturbation? Or was that Darwin?

noddy wrote:as a general rule i think the mgtow thing, like the incel thing, is the usual bunch of barflies that have always existed but never had a platform before, best ignored unless they leave their dark corner of the pub.

I actually saw a funny meme from that neck of the whining woods tho, in relatation to abortion and the arch feminist dogma around that topic.

"how do you make a feminist talk like a pro life conservative ? bring up paperwork abortions for young men who want out for the same reasons"

I like it. if a pregnant woman wants to get an abortion, shouldn't she need a written document denoting the approval of the sperm donor? Or else isn't it murdering someone else's child?

I think there is a yuge market for another similar product. A legal paper work abortion prior to the 75th trimester, that should be a man's "right."

Sally: "Joe, I have some bad news. I'm pregnant."
Joe: "No problem. I'll see a lawyer today and fill out the Morning/Week/Month/Post birth After Paternal Responsibility Abortion form, and pay the $200 filing fee."
Sally: "I think I just got f**ked again......."
Joe: "Yeah, was the second time as good for you as it was for me?"

Simple Minded wrote:

noddy wrote:as a general rule i think the mgtow thing, like the incel thing, is the usual bunch of barflies that have always existed but never had a platform before, best ignored unless they leave their dark corner of the pub.

I actually saw a funny meme from that neck of the whining woods tho, in relatation to abortion and the arch feminist dogma around that topic.

"how do you make a feminist talk like a pro life conservative ? bring up paperwork abortions for young men who want out for the same reasons"

I like it. if a pregnant woman wants to get an abortion, shouldn't she need a written document denoting the approval of the sperm donor? Or else isn't it murdering someone else's child?

I think there is a yuge market for another similar product. A legal paper work abortion prior to the 75th trimester, that should be a man's "right."

Sally: "Joe, I have some bad news. I'm pregnant."
Joe: "No problem. I'll see a lawyer today and fill out the Morning/Week/Month/Post birth After Paternal Responsibility Abortion form, and pay the $200 filing fee."
Sally: "I think I just got f**ked again......."
Joe: "Yeah, was the second time as good for you as it was for me?"

the basic concept of young men being a bit drunk, or pressurized or tricked by non existent contraception triggers some very pro lifer type responses about personal responsibilities.

This is all so 1964. If states make abortions illegal there will be an increase in the use of safe, otc abortifacients. If states insist on burial or cremation of fetuses, abortion clinics will fold the next day.

Nonc Hilaire wrote:This is all so 1964. If states make abortions illegal there will be an increase in the use of safe, otc abortifacients. If states insist on burial or cremation of fetuses, abortion clinics will fold the next day.

Yep. If there is one thing politicians excel at, it is killing "unacceptable" industries thru legislation that is expensive to comply with. Not as a tactic in the political war, of course, but in attaining the altruistic goal of the common good.

noddy wrote:
the basic concept of young men being a bit drunk, or pressurized or tricked by non existent contraception triggers some very pro lifer type responses about personal responsibilities.

Billion $ idea for a programer. Forget condoms, sponges, IUD's, etc. How about a After the Act Paternal Abortion Ap for your smartphone?

Press a button and all the forms get emailed to you, then forwarded to a lawyer an hour later.

Then, before the dirty deed, when the girl asks the guy if he has "protection," he can whip out his smartphone and say "Sure. See this icon over here. That's my protection."

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It's not something that I would normally do.

Ibrahim wrote: ↑Sat Jan 19, 2019 4:18 am

Mr. Perfect wrote: I am a part owner in a data analytics company,

I doubt it. But that's neither here nor there, we are never exchanging personal information or money for any reason. Though if it turns out incels stop murdering people in 2019 I will happily admit that I was wrong about them becoming increasingly violent. Let's check the numbers again next year.

Ok how did it go.

Are you sure?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wggkdpv0x48

Doc wrote: ↑Mon Jan 01, 2024 7:11 am Are you sure?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/wggkdpv0x48

Yes I am sure.

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1604319824069005325

Happy Valentines Day

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1604319824069005325

Doc wrote: ↑Wed Feb 14, 2024 11:27 am Happy Valentines Day

https://www.minds.com/newsfeed/1604319824069005325

Wow.

Drizzle Drizzle

https://youtu.be/bi28pPmFEmg

Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:54 pm Drizzle Drizzle

https://youtu.be/bi28pPmFEmg

As the video seems US-based: living in the US back in the 1980's and dating was complicated enough for me.

No idea how representative such videos are, but regardless I'm glad I'm not attempting dating today . . . anywhere.

Typhoon wrote: ↑Fri Apr 19, 2024 2:08 am

Nonc Hilaire wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2024 11:54 pm Drizzle Drizzle

https://youtu.be/bi28pPmFEmg

As the video seems US-based: living in the US back in the 1980's and dating was complicated enough for me.

No idea how representative such videos are, but regardless I'm glad I'm not attempting dating today . . . anywhere.


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What women in the 1980's said they wanted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nXGPZaTKik

What they really wanted:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3ikYjcKnl4