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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:13 pm
noddy wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:11 am Yes, america cant blame its drug problems on china, thats not correct
True. There have been interdictions of semi-truck loads of raw fentanyl weighing tons in the Northeast and Southwest US.

Obviously this fentanyl was manufactured in the US and being transported for pilling/packaging/distribution. Suspicion falls on the old Malinckrodt facilities in New Jersey that processed pharmaceutical cocaine and the old Kodak chemical plants near Rochester NY.

Biologics that must be farmed in a suitable region using manual labor must be imported but importing synthetics makes little sense.


A back-of-the-envelope calculation


US has 350 m population .. @least 1 in 20 (probably 1 in 10) , say 5% (probably 10%) use hard drugs on daily bases, making @least 20 m Americans

If they use 1 gram each every day, 20 million grams a day , 20 Tons a day

Who can believe that 20 Tons a day drugs can be smuggled into US ? on daily basis

Means this “commercial” importation.

All Wall Street traders, all, are on "Cocaine", Hollywood etc .. Authorities know all this


Blaming China and CCP just to distract from truth.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 4:53 pm
Doc wrote: Mon Jan 15, 2024 5:43 am
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Jan 14, 2024 6:26 pm

The Korean war was a "border skirmish"? China is collapsing economically faster than the US. Also turns out that the Chinese miracle of bringing 100's of millions out of poverty was fake. China still has a billion people in poverty With the economic collapse there will be even more.

Are you really that dense, or are you just trolling again?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_Wa ... mber_1950)

China intervenes (October–December 1950)

Always get the facts first before distorting them

China helped Vietnam and Korea when US attacked Korea and Vietnam

Vietnam beat America and now Vietnam a sovereign country

Korea could not beat US because Douglas MacArthur threatened China with nuke and the result is Korea was divided like Vietnam had been.

Not China but US attacked Korea.
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Not even wrong, as pointed out by "Doc".
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:09 am
Parodite wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:19 am Losing the fentanyl war against China?

There’s No Way To StopDrug Smuggling Anymore | Ben Westhoff | TEDxPurdueU

The CCP Han-deplorables won't voluntarily start a serious crackdown on those fentanyl precursor chemical kingpin factories in China simply because that would not be in their interest. To ask them to co-operate and attack this problem together in a win-win battle against crime and drug addiction would make sense, but that is only because we like to believe other people think and feel like us. If not now... maybe tomorrow, right? My belief in these types of shared human goodies has eroded completely.

To be effective in dealing with criminal deplorables you must know their currency. Hamas et-al for instance don't care about human life. They do care about territory however; a lot! Holy Islamic soil is their currency. Annex an amount of territory for every killed Israeli citizen, rocket fired. Attach to every violent assault a price expressed in an amount of territory that will be annexed. Once a year the Annexation Accountant will come and send the bill. Territorial loss as a taxation on violence.

For China there must be a currency that pays for every fentanyl overdose in the USA. One that the CCP cares about a lot.

100.000 US citizens per year that OD on fentanyl. Let's not make the CCP Han-deploribus responsible for all of them and hold the USA and its addicts responsible for half of the massacres. The other 50% should be blamed on Mexican cartels and CCP China. So let's make Mexico and CCP responsible for the death of 25k US citizens each and per year.

Mexican cartels kill 25.000 Americans each year. A reasonable price for such yearly massacres is to move in with the US army into Mexico and clean the barn. Helped by the Mexican police and army, but don't ask for their permission.

CCP killing 25.000 Americans each year with fentanyl chemical warfare. Moving in with an army is not possible. Only real hurt for China is trade loss. Once the Western psyche is cured from the dogma that free trade is a law of nature, it can change its attitude towards criminal organizations like the CCP and simply don't do business with them until they changed enough in the right direction.

With whom to play and not to play in the global market can and should be part of the democratic process IMHO. Of course, people making money on trade with China won't like it and threaten to move their business elsewhere. I couldn’t care less, on the contrary. Good riddance.

If the entire Anglo-West decides to close all doors with CCP China, Putler Russia and The Laughing mad mullahs... we will be okay and much better off in a few years.

Upcoming economies can be warned against China and advised not to do business with them, but of course birds of a feather flock together meaning corrupt and criminal entities will strengthen ties, that will always the case. Free market fundamentalists are ok doing business with Hitler, even with the devil himself and without losing their soul because it was never there from the beginning.

As for internal drug wars: me thinks keep trade illegal but completely de-criminlize drug use. Addicts should be helped by doctors, social workers and be taken care of in facilities where their drugs are administered for free. Hospitals can make their own fentanyl, amphetamines whatever.

Losing the fentanyl war against China :lol: ?

What is one of the biggest killer of world population .. CIGARETTS

And who are the biggest producers ?

Philip Morris International, British American Tobacco, Imperial Brands

Tobacco use is the leading cause of preventable death and disease in the world.

Read somewhere that the cost of production of a pack of Marlboro is 10 cents


China, CCP blamed for everything

There should be a class action suit by world population against Western Tobacco giants.
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Typical 3rd world mentality blaming all internal problems on the West.

Today, the majority of smokers are in PR China and smoke local brands.

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Its' been interesting to observe the decline in smoking in Japan.
For example, a major hospital In Osaka where a chain-smoking friend works used to have a smoking room [as did many hospitals], later moved an outside on-site smoking area, and finally off-site to a tiny non-descript cinder block building a five minute walk from the hospital.
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:07 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:13 pm
noddy wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 7:11 am Yes, america cant blame its drug problems on china, thats not correct
True. There have been interdictions of semi-truck loads of raw fentanyl weighing tons in the Northeast and Southwest US.

Obviously this fentanyl was manufactured in the US and being transported for pilling/packaging/distribution. Suspicion falls on the old Malinckrodt facilities in New Jersey that processed pharmaceutical cocaine and the old Kodak chemical plants near Rochester NY.

Biologics that must be farmed in a suitable region using manual labor must be imported but importing synthetics makes little sense.


A back-of-the-envelope calculation


US has 350 m population .. @least 1 in 20 (probably 1 in 10) , say 5% (probably 10%) use hard drugs on daily bases, making @least 20 m Americans

If they use 1 gram each every day, 20 million grams a day , 20 Tons a day

Who can believe that 20 Tons a day drugs can be smuggled into US ? on daily basis

Means this “commercial” importation.

All Wall Street traders, all, are on "Cocaine", Hollywood etc .. Authorities know all this


Blaming China and CCP just to distract from truth.
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Not even wrong.


PR China along with India provides the feedstock chemical to illicit drug manufacturers in countries such Mexico and also within the US.

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Fentanyl Flowing into Texas


Of course, demand always creates its supply. What has lead to the rapidly rising demand for fentanyl in the US is another topic.
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Typhoon wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:56 pm
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:09 am
Parodite wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:19 am Losing the fentanyl war against China?

There’s No Way To StopDrug Smuggling Anymore | Ben Westhoff | TEDxPurdueU

The CCP Han-deplorables won't voluntarily start a serious crackdown on those fentanyl precursor chemical kingpin factories in China simply because that would not be in their interest. To ask them to co-operate and attack this problem together in a win-win battle against crime and drug addiction would make sense, but that is only because we like to believe other people think and feel like us. If not now... maybe tomorrow, right? My belief in these types of shared human goodies has eroded completely.

To be effective in dealing with criminal deplorables you must know their currency. Hamas et-al for instance don't care about human life. They do care about territory however; a lot! Holy Islamic soil is their currency. Annex an amount of territory for every killed Israeli citizen, rocket fired. Attach to every violent assault a price expressed in an amount of territory that will be annexed. Once a year the Annexation Accountant will come and send the bill. Territorial loss as a taxation on violence.

For China there must be a currency that pays for every fentanyl overdose in the USA. One that the CCP cares about a lot.

100.000 US citizens per year that OD on fentanyl. Let's not make the CCP Han-deploribus responsible for all of them and hold the USA and its addicts responsible for half of the massacres. The other 50% should be blamed on Mexican cartels and CCP China. So let's make Mexico and CCP responsible for the death of 25k US citizens each and per year.

Mexican cartels kill 25.000 Americans each year. A reasonable price for such yearly massacres is to move in with the US army into Mexico and clean the barn. Helped by the Mexican police and army, but don't ask for their permission.

CCP killing 25.000 Americans each year with fentanyl chemical warfare. Moving in with an army is not possible. Only real hurt for China is trade loss. Once the Western psyche is cured from the dogma that free trade is a law of nature, it can change its attitude towards criminal organizations like the CCP and simply don't do business with them until they changed enough in the right direction.

With whom to play and not to play in the global market can and should be part of the democratic process IMHO. Of course, people making money on trade with China won't like it and threaten to move their business elsewhere. I couldn’t care less, on the contrary. Good riddance.

If the entire Anglo-West decides to close all doors with CCP China, Putler Russia and The Laughing mad mullahs... we will be okay and much better off in a few years.

Upcoming economies can be warned against China and advised not to do business with them, but of course birds of a feather flock together meaning corrupt and criminal entities will strengthen ties, that will always the case. Free market fundamentalists are ok doing business with Hitler, even with the devil himself and without losing their soul because it was never there from the beginning.

As for internal drug wars: me thinks keep trade illegal but completely de-criminlize drug use. Addicts should be helped by doctors, social workers and be taken care of in facilities where their drugs are administered for free. Hospitals can make their own fentanyl, amphetamines whatever.

Losing the fentanyl war against China :lol: ?

What is one of the biggest killer of world population .. CIGARETTS

And who are the biggest producers ?

Philip Morris International, British American Tobacco, Imperial Brands

Tobacco use is the leading cause of preventable death and disease in the world.

Read somewhere that the cost of production of a pack of Marlboro is 10 cents


China, CCP blamed for everything

There should be a class action suit by world population against Western Tobacco giants.
.

Typical 3rd world mentality blaming all internal problems on the West.

Today, the majority of smokers are in PR China and smoke local brands.


Where_are_the_world's_smokers.jpg


Most_popuar_cigarette_brands_in_PR_China.jpg


Its' been interesting to observe the decline in smoking in Japan.
For example, a major hospital In Osaka where a chain-smoking friend works used to have a smoking room [as did many hospitals], later moved an outside on-site smoking area, and finally off-site to a tiny non-descript cinder block building a five minute walk from the hospital.




West expert in introducing addictive poison to world population and make money.

Who was forcing Opium on China ? for Gold

Who was beheading Chinese when they confronted the Opium pushed on China ?

Opium was known as "medicine" for 1000s of yrs in Asia .. but not as "narcotic".

Tobacco did not come from China nor from Iran or Japan

There many such poisons that West commercialized making money on, poisoning the world

Latest one is PORNOGRAHY, now mainstream in West .. LGBT or other garbage of the west pushed on the world (Africa revolting) .. looks like homosexuals have highjacked west, pretty much all British politicians are homo


https://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/1 ... aysia.gay/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s.politics

:lol: :lol:

3rd word now confronting all these .. Thanks to mad mullahs, Trump, Patriarch Kirill of Moscow, uncle Putin, Xi :D

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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 8:38 pm
Typhoon wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:56 pm
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 6:09 am
Parodite wrote: Sun Jan 21, 2024 3:19 am Losing the fentanyl war against China?

There’s No Way To StopDrug Smuggling Anymore | Ben Westhoff | TEDxPurdueU

The CCP Han-deplorables won't voluntarily start a serious crackdown on those fentanyl precursor chemical kingpin factories in China simply because that would not be in their interest. To ask them to co-operate and attack this problem together in a win-win battle against crime and drug addiction would make sense, but that is only because we like to believe other people think and feel like us. If not now... maybe tomorrow, right? My belief in these types of shared human goodies has eroded completely.

To be effective in dealing with criminal deplorables you must know their currency. Hamas et-al for instance don't care about human life. They do care about territory however; a lot! Holy Islamic soil is their currency. Annex an amount of territory for every killed Israeli citizen, rocket fired. Attach to every violent assault a price expressed in an amount of territory that will be annexed. Once a year the Annexation Accountant will come and send the bill. Territorial loss as a taxation on violence.

For China there must be a currency that pays for every fentanyl overdose in the USA. One that the CCP cares about a lot.

100.000 US citizens per year that OD on fentanyl. Let's not make the CCP Han-deploribus responsible for all of them and hold the USA and its addicts responsible for half of the massacres. The other 50% should be blamed on Mexican cartels and CCP China. So let's make Mexico and CCP responsible for the death of 25k US citizens each and per year.

Mexican cartels kill 25.000 Americans each year. A reasonable price for such yearly massacres is to move in with the US army into Mexico and clean the barn. Helped by the Mexican police and army, but don't ask for their permission.

CCP killing 25.000 Americans each year with fentanyl chemical warfare. Moving in with an army is not possible. Only real hurt for China is trade loss. Once the Western psyche is cured from the dogma that free trade is a law of nature, it can change its attitude towards criminal organizations like the CCP and simply don't do business with them until they changed enough in the right direction.

With whom to play and not to play in the global market can and should be part of the democratic process IMHO. Of course, people making money on trade with China won't like it and threaten to move their business elsewhere. I couldn’t care less, on the contrary. Good riddance.

If the entire Anglo-West decides to close all doors with CCP China, Putler Russia and The Laughing mad mullahs... we will be okay and much better off in a few years.

Upcoming economies can be warned against China and advised not to do business with them, but of course birds of a feather flock together meaning corrupt and criminal entities will strengthen ties, that will always the case. Free market fundamentalists are ok doing business with Hitler, even with the devil himself and without losing their soul because it was never there from the beginning.

As for internal drug wars: me thinks keep trade illegal but completely de-criminlize drug use. Addicts should be helped by doctors, social workers and be taken care of in facilities where their drugs are administered for free. Hospitals can make their own fentanyl, amphetamines whatever.

Losing the fentanyl war against China :lol: ?

What is one of the biggest killer of world population .. CIGARETTS

And who are the biggest producers ?

Philip Morris International, British American Tobacco, Imperial Brands

Tobacco use is the leading cause of preventable death and disease in the world.

Read somewhere that the cost of production of a pack of Marlboro is 10 cents


China, CCP blamed for everything

There should be a class action suit by world population against Western Tobacco giants.
.

Typical 3rd world mentality blaming all internal problems on the West.

Today, the majority of smokers are in PR China and smoke local brands.


Where_are_the_world's_smokers.jpg


Most_popuar_cigarette_brands_in_PR_China.jpg


Its' been interesting to observe the decline in smoking in Japan.
For example, a major hospital In Osaka where a chain-smoking friend works used to have a smoking room [as did many hospitals], later moved an outside on-site smoking area, and finally off-site to a tiny non-descript cinder block building a five minute walk from the hospital.




West expert in introducing addictive poison to world population and make money.

Who was forcing Opium on China ? for Gold

Who was beheading Chinese when they confronted the Opium pushed on China ?

Opium was known as "medicine" for 1000s of yrs in Asia .. but not as "narcotic".

Tobacco did not come from China nor from Iran or Japan

There many such poisons that West commercialized making money on, poisoning the world

Latest one is PORNOGRAHY, now mainstream in West .. LGBT or other garbage of the west pushed on the world (Africa revolting)
The only interesting bit in all of this is to observe that some people are defined by past grievances - events that occurred before they were born and are wholly unrelated to their own lives.
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https://asiatimes.com/2024/01/mike-pomp ... -sentence/

“ Show up in Africa with some stolen intellectual property from the United States that you built with cheap labor inside of China and then dump it on the world in an effort to aggregate political power. ”

:lol: very funny article


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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vwq-7ZxFZo0



You wonder why Cotton pissed off ? .. Member of CCP or Chinese Passport just BS


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How the US and China both work.


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In the past, uTube was full of ONLY Western Media, CNN , FOX, MSNBC etc .. there was nothing from China (state) Media, ZERO

Now, suddenly, China Global Television Network, or CGTN, Chinese State Media is very active, lots of Clips about international events, economy, military, socially, culture etc.

China decided to be heard



Good to watch and see what China's view is about world event, no matter whether agree or disagree


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wbdb4uyKaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhDJlgHCZg0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnw8-FfSwpY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_f6YxzDvag&t=206s

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Typhoon wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:06 pm Desperate times desperate measures.

SCMP | China intervenes as stock rout reaches US$5 trillion amid 'uber-weak' confidence


China is now the "Real Capitalist" system, lets chips fall where they might fall .. not like America that when "2007–2008 financial crisis" happened and WS crooks "shorted and fleeced America", FED was "dumping" DOLLARS with dump trucks on Goldman Sachs and other Crooks "without even a "receipt", probably not even God knows how many Trillion Dollars were dumped on Wall Street crooks. When congress asked FED how much, FED replied FED is a private bank and non of Congress Business asking these kind of questions. :lol:
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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:31 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:06 pm Desperate times desperate measures.

SCMP | China intervenes as stock rout reaches US$5 trillion amid 'uber-weak' confidence


China is now the "Real Capitalist" system, lets chips fall where they might fall .. not like America that when "2007–2008 financial crisis" happened and WS crooks "shorted and fleeced America", FED was "dumping" DOLLARS with dump trucks on Goldman Sachs and other Crooks "without even a "receipt", probably not even God knows how many Trillion Dollars were dumped on Wall Street crooks. When congress asked FED how much, FED replied FED is a private bank and non of Congress Business asking these kind of questions. :lol:
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Blah, blah, blah, what about . . . , blah, blah, blah, misdirection . . ., blah, blah, blah.

At least in the US the govt and Wall Street are somewhat separate, in PR China both are the CCP.

I doubt that retail investors in PR China property and stocks perceive their situation the same way that you do.
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Typhoon wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:24 am
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:31 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:06 pm Desperate times desperate measures.

SCMP | China intervenes as stock rout reaches US$5 trillion amid 'uber-weak' confidence


China is now the "Real Capitalist" system, lets chips fall where they might fall .. not like America that when "2007–2008 financial crisis" happened and WS crooks "shorted and fleeced America", FED was "dumping" DOLLARS with dump trucks on Goldman Sachs and other Crooks "without even a "receipt", probably not even God knows how many Trillion Dollars were dumped on Wall Street crooks. When congress asked FED how much, FED replied FED is a private bank and non of Congress Business asking these kind of questions. :lol:
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Blah, blah, blah, what about . . . , blah, blah, blah, misdirection . . ., blah, blah, blah.

At least in the US the govt and Wall Street are somewhat separate, in PR China both are the CCP.

I doubt that retail investors in PR China property and stocks perceive their situation the same way that you do.



Xi cleaning up, cleaning up a touch of "Cardashian" virus that started to inflict China .. in China money must be earned

Wall Street is a scam

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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:29 am
Typhoon wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 4:24 am
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 1:31 am
Typhoon wrote: Tue Feb 06, 2024 11:06 pm Desperate times desperate measures.

SCMP | China intervenes as stock rout reaches US$5 trillion amid 'uber-weak' confidence


China is now the "Real Capitalist" system, lets chips fall where they might fall .. not like America that when "2007–2008 financial crisis" happened and WS crooks "shorted and fleeced America", FED was "dumping" DOLLARS with dump trucks on Goldman Sachs and other Crooks "without even a "receipt", probably not even God knows how many Trillion Dollars were dumped on Wall Street crooks. When congress asked FED how much, FED replied FED is a private bank and non of Congress Business asking these kind of questions. :lol:
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Blah, blah, blah, what about . . . , blah, blah, blah, misdirection . . ., blah, blah, blah.

At least in the US the govt and Wall Street are somewhat separate, in PR China both are the CCP.

I doubt that retail investors in PR China property and stocks perceive their situation the same way that you do.

Xi cleaning up, cleaning up a touch of "Kardashian" virus that started to inflict China .. in China money must be earned
Rather "taking the PR Chinese retail population to the cleaners" than "cleaning up".

Your admiration for kleptocratic dictators seems to know no bounds.

Wall Street is a scam.
A repeat of your lame effort at whataboutism and misdirection.

We're discussing PR China's problems here.

Speaking of scams, let's have a look at the ironically named Evergrande.
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Typhoon wrote: Sat Feb 10, 2024 9:26 pm
Speaking of scams, let's have a look at the ironically named Evergrande.


Capitalist system is letting companies go bankrupt if they made mistake, over extended

That is what Xi doin with Evergrande


In Western scam, new expression introduced into system to fool Joe , "too big to fail", meaning once crooks done with fleecing and no juice left, Joe is asked to chip in, arguing this too big to let go broke .. this not capitalist system, but rather Socialist system.

Said many times real capitalism now is in China .. West moving bit by bit towards "stealth" socialism.

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https://asiatimes.com/2024/01/houthis-a ... sea-trade/
The Chinese are increasingly angry with Iran. Reuters reports that Chinese officials have asked Iran “to rein in attacks on ships in the Red Sea by the Iran-backed Houthis, or risk harming business relations with Beijing.”

That may not sound like much of a threat, but the hidden text is that a lot of the parts for Iranian missiles and drones, along with equipment for Iran’s large-scale nuclear program, come from China.

If China actually cut these supplies off, Iran would have to close its war factories. Thus the Chinese would do to Iran what US export controls completely failed to do to China: shut down access to technology from Asia, the United States and Europe.

It would also hit Russia hard. Russia is buying drones and drone components from Iran. Yes, Russia could get stuff from China – but the Chinese have been anxious to avoid Western sanctions, so they have been careful on what they feed the Big Bear and they prefer an approach to under-the-table transactions that, in Chinese terms, appears to resemble plausible deniability.
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noddy wrote: Sun Feb 11, 2024 12:21 am https://asiatimes.com/2024/01/houthis-a ... sea-trade/
The Chinese are increasingly angry with Iran. Reuters reports that Chinese officials have asked Iran “to rein in attacks on ships in the Red Sea by the Iran-backed Houthis, or risk harming business relations with Beijing.”

That may not sound like much of a threat, but the hidden text is that a lot of the parts for Iranian missiles and drones, along with equipment for Iran’s large-scale nuclear program, come from China.

If China actually cut these supplies off, Iran would have to close its war factories. Thus the Chinese would do to Iran what US export controls completely failed to do to China: shut down access to technology from Asia, the United States and Europe.

It would also hit Russia hard. Russia is buying drones and drone components from Iran. Yes, Russia could get stuff from China – but the Chinese have been anxious to avoid Western sanctions, so they have been careful on what they feed the Big Bear and they prefer an approach to under-the-table transactions that, in Chinese terms, appears to resemble plausible deniability.



noddy , Iran now a "sovereign", powerful, strategically vital to world powers, Nation.

Nobody, absolutely nobody, can dictate anything to Iran .. nobody

Iran is now the most powerful since Alexander attacked Persia 330 BC .. one of the most important nations "geopolitically"

That is why Iranians backing the mad mullahs "no matter what"


Atlantic Council
February 1, 2024
China doesn’t have as much leverage in the Middle East as one thinks
—at least when it comes to Iran


. . despite China’s interests in the region being threatened, Beijing has apparently been able to exert little influence over Iran.
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you are extremely proud of drop shipping drones from aliexpress.

got to take your wins where you find them I spose.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUX4hubDmM

They Are Getting Desperate...
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Doc wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:15 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUX4hubDmM

They Are Getting Desperate...


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Let's see what "THEY" do this time in Wall Street when that thing hits the fan

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Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:04 am
Doc wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:15 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUX4hubDmM

They Are Getting Desperate...


FT Front Page today

https://www.ft.com/content/4114454c-a92 ... 60b2b871c6



Finanacial Times .png


Let's see what "THEY" do this time in Wall Street when that thing hits the fan

This is the China Thread HP Seems like you are trolling again
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Doc wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 6:47 pm
Heracleum Persicum wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:04 am
Doc wrote: Wed Feb 21, 2024 4:15 am https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGUX4hubDmM

They Are Getting Desperate...


FT Front Page today

https://www.ft.com/content/4114454c-a92 ... 60b2b871c6



Finanacial Times .png


Let's see what "THEY" do this time in Wall Street when that thing hits the fan

This is the China Thread HP Seems like you are trolling again
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