Parodite wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 10:55 pm
It is undeniably true that Hamas needs to be destroyed. First things first. What should happen after that can wait a bit longer. There will be no 2-state solution, nor a 1-state solution for as long as these types like Hamas exist in Gaza and Westbank.
When they are gone, the same old question and hot potato will burn in Israel's lap:
1. If we want to remain a Jewish majority state it requires Israel to officially declare to have zero claims on both Gaza and Westbank. These territories then have to be unilaterally emptied from all Jewish presence. But then these Hamas types will grow back and prepare new assaults on the Jewish state, as Gaza has proven already. It is crazy to believe otherwise.
This then means that to create enough security for the Jewish majority state, Israel must keep controlling lands that are not officially theirs; build and maintain Jewish facts on the ground, in the form of settlements and a web of checkpoints, as the reason to be there.
This is the defacto reality for many decades already. Not ideal for Israel, but certainly hell for Palestinians. A good definition of Hell would be the current situation. Slow torture for all involved and zero light at the end of any tunnel.
Now if Israel doesn't want any of the above lavender to continue, there are only a few options left:
2. hope and wait for Miracle Moshiach to arrive. This usually is not of much help, it also didn't protect Jews from viscious pogroms. But, if you have zero realistic options left... why not.
3. Annex Gaza and Westbank and offer all its inhabitants citizenship, like all Israeli Arabs and Druze already enjoy.
But then Israel has no longer a secure Jewish majority: Israeli Arabs, now a really large volume, may smell victory over the Jews using democracy as their weapon, and eventually squeeze them out of the country.
Reality then will be an old phenomenon that usually resolves such a situation: civil war and it would not be less nasty then any of the other wars, this latest with Hamas included. 7-10 is what such a civil war would look like.
Conclusion: it wil be wars, civil wars, a bloody nasty hell no matter what. 1-state, 2-state, it all has the same end result.
The fight continues until one of the competing tribes has sufficiently destroyed and massacred its opponent(s).
It happens quickly, or is artificially stretched to last many decades: no real difference.
The 98% monkey doesn't care much about 2% messianic or intellectual thought processes.
Not sure Ben Shapiro is aware of his own 98% monkeyness. Fact is, that this 98% monkey is pure emotion and doesn't care that much about his own abstracted "facts", religious knowlegde or historical claims. It is a language our inner monkey doesn't understand anyways. Why bother? Just smash your enemies to pulp, what else is there.
It might be, that Nature doesn't like imbalances. For every Saint and truely innocent victim, you need a coupla psycho a-holes doing the dirty work of life: necessary, and it keeps the script interesting.
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