Israel

[Heracleum Persicum]

Well done, Israel.


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Yes, very well done

BBC

How Gaza hostage raid ended with Israel striking crowded streets

Israeli special forces freed female hostage Noa Argamani using the element of surprise - but another team which had freed three male hostages came under attack prompting the Israeli military to launch massive air strikes on crowded nearby streets as covering fire, killing scores of Palestinians.

Shooting into crowded street ? ? that lowers the bar ..

And

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c511vl9yjwwo

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[Typhoon]

If that number is even accurate.

Even before this conflagration, the exaggeration of death tolls and media manipulation with sympathizers (we know the basics of how this stuff is laundered through the press; and it's not a religious solidarity thing.)

I remember being very young and reading detailed descriptions of how photographers and journalists from Time Magazine set up fake shots of atrocities-- and this was during relatively peaceful times, pre-2006 and the so called Second Intifada.

"The Jews are liars too!" Which however true just makes the amount of lying from the Palestinian contingency only more staggering.

Again and again, it should always been repeated, we've seen this play before with the Irish. Exact same song and dance between criminal gangs and socialist networking. Even the IRA and various orangemen groups weren't so barbaric as to parade raped women through the streets like trophies; they had enough shame to keep that out of the political platform.

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Would it make any difference if not 300 but 100 civilians and 3 detainees had been killed freeing 4 detainees ? or even 50

Yes, this big propaganda war, but the ballpark pretty much clear

Zionist mindset, best explained by Sharon in clip I posted, is "we don't care how world thinks or how many others die as long as we alive" .. that will lead to reciprocate BANG, which unfortunately now becoming mainstream.

"It cuts both ways"

As if any moral high ground is going to be claimed. It's delusional.

NS , HP sayin and sayin, but seems nobody engaging what HP sayin

Heart of the matter in future peaceful living by nations is common "Morality".

There no such thing in Western literature and philosophers as "morality" .. Western Philosophers, Goethe , Schiller, Lessing, Hegel, even Plato did not mention even once "morality", what is good and bad, evil and good

Without morality we no humans but part of animals .. Western NOTION seems is "what is good for me is the right one", that is central to Trump, aDolf, Natanyahu, Churchill, Hideki Tojo and Belgian King Leopold II

All, pretty much 100% of Persian literature and philosophers writings are about "Morality" , what is good or bad .

As Zoroasterians say “Good Thoughts, Good Words, Good Deeds”

West, coming out of "Dark Ages" took the wrong approach .. Greek Democracy so much praised and used as model was no democracy, it was democracy among elite (what they called citizens), rest of population (slaves) had no rights whatsoever. West pretty much still at that.

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A retreat into whiny whataboutism.

There's irony in you invoking Zoroastrianism which has been severely persecuted in post-Shah Iran.

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Christians, Jews and Zoroastrianism are very much respected and happy in Iran .. they have a "reserved" member of parliament in Iranian parliament .. there many western BS anti Iran propaganda, don't fall into that rubbish


And.. as Atheist, I do not defend religious institutions .. but , to be faire, Mull*hs very tolerant in religion than Trump/evangelicals in US and now in Holland and Europe ..


But my post was much more than that .. it is much deeper .. what Hp sayin is Western civilization not cater to "Morality" .. Western Morality is "what is good for me is the right one", that is central to Trump, aDolf, Natanyahu, Churchill, Hideki Tojo and Belgian King Leopold II
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Again off-topic whataboutism.

The former Soviet Union, like Iran, also had a lovely constitution. The reality in both cases was/is rather different:

MEI | Iranian Regime Inciting Hatred, Persecuting Zoroastrian Minority

Note that this the Israel thread. Further off-topic posts will be summarily deleted.

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[Typhoon]

Well done, Israel.


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Yes, very well done

BBC

How Gaza hostage raid ended with Israel striking crowded streets

Israeli special forces freed female hostage Noa Argamani using the element of surprise - but another team which had freed three male hostages came under attack prompting the Israeli military to launch massive air strikes on crowded nearby streets as covering fire, killing scores of Palestinians.

Shooting into crowded street ? ? that lowers the bar ..

And

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c511vl9yjwwo

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So what?

Don't want to be shot or bombed? Don't take and torture and/or murder civilian hostages.

Quite simple.

[Parodite]

Question is, Perodite, where is the "MORALITY" in Western European history since coming out of Dark Ages 10th century

Pls bring a sample.

Was what Christians did in Africa or wiping out Indigini in Americas and oceania and WW2 and now in Western Asia, in Abu Gharib or Afghanistan, where was the Morality of all that ? ?

Did Schiller or Goethe or Hegel mention Morality ? if they did, pls say .. or Western philosopher ? name one

What is so difficult to understand ?

For you everything is impossible to understand. I engaged your nonsense on many occasions. You know what's wrong with your above bovine drivel, don't play funny clown.

You are an arrogant racist, a stereotyper yet fortunately harmless, dumping the sins of a few on many that you lump together in a boxes like "the west", "christians", any box that suits your game. You have not shown the ability to faintly grock what you are doing. Of course, mental stereotypers are everywhere, so no need to feel lonely.

In my world only individuals matter, can be held responsible, praised or condemned. Let that sink in.

You can disagree with me, the beauty of free speech. But asking Parodite about philosophers shows you never read and absorb what somebody like me, who does engage you, actually writes. In my view philosophers mostly produce self-referential word salads without much added value. Said it many times.

Your mind is closed and sealed, immune to reality, sorry for saying that. Trying to talk common sense into you is as fruitless and surreal as talking to a Jehovah Witness, or any other religiously-ideologically possessed over-cooked brain. That also includes, just to illustrate, people with TDS who decided Trump is an evil future dictator but then in believing so, start to commit the sins they accuse him of. Very interesting phenomena! They do what they accuse others of doing and become the dictator they fear.

An auto-immune disorder of sorts, maybe fueled by PTSD. The end of that road is suicide: the moment comes when they look in the mirror and see Trump staring back at them. But will check this theory with Dr Phil before it is submitted for publication

As for morality: mine is superior to anything ever produced by East, West, North or South. Maybe I should publish my Opus Magnus The Honest Apes Morality Handbook . It will make all holy books look like psychotic cartoons in comparison, yet it only needs about 8 pages of text.

Only humble monkies with enough self-knowledge will get it of course. You already confessed you fear just being an animal and are caught in a common trap; to believe you are much more than a monkey, a dog or an insect. We are not. If you want proof: just look around, watch the news, social media.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Question is, Perodite, where is the "MORALITY" in Western European history since coming out of Dark Ages 10th century

Pls bring a sample.

Was what Christians did in Africa or wiping out Indigini in Americas and oceania and WW2 and now in Western Asia, in Abu Gharib or Afghanistan, where was the Morality of all that ? ?

Did Schiller or Goethe or Hegel mention Morality ? if they did, pls say .. or Western philosopher ? name one

What is so difficult to understand ?

For you everything is impossible to understand. I engaged your nonsense on many occasions. You know what's wrong with your above bovine drivel, don't play funny clown.

You are an arrogant racist, a stereotyper yet fortunately harmless, dumping the sins of a few on many that you lump together in a boxes like "the west", "christians", any box that suits your game. You have not shown the ability to faintly grock what you are doing. Of course, mental stereotypers are everywhere, so no need to feel lonely.

In my world only individuals matter, can be held responsible, praised or condemned. Let that sink in.

You can disagree with me, the beauty of free speech. But asking Parodite about philosophers shows you never read and absorb what somebody like me, who does engage you, actually writes. In my view philosophers mostly produce self-referential word salads without much added value. Said it many times.

Your mind is closed and sealed, immune to reality, sorry for saying that. Trying to talk common sense into you is as fruitless and surreal as talking to a Jehovah Witness, or any other religiously-ideologically possessed over-cooked brain. That also includes, just to illustrate, people with TDS who decided Trump is an evil future dictator but then in believing so, start to commit the sins they accuse him of. Very interesting phenomena! They do what they accuse others of doing and become the dictator they fear.

An auto-immune disorder of sorts, maybe fuelled by PTSD. The end of that road is suicide: the moment comes when they look in the mirror and see Trump staring back at them. But will check this theory with Dr Phil before it is submitted for publication

As for morality: mine is superior to anything ever produced by East, West, North or South. Maybe I should publish my Opus Magnus The Honest Apes Morality Handbook . It will make all holy books look like psychotic cartoons in comparison, yet it only needs about 8 pages of text.

Only humble monkeys with enough self-knowledge will get it of course. You already confessed you fear just being an animal and are caught in a common trap; to believe you are much more than a monkey, a dog or an insect. We are not. If you want proof: just look around, watch the news, social media.

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Did I ever comment about any poster personality ? I consider on the other side a chatBot who will debate my arguments ..

This debate not about HP .. whether HP arrogant racist, a stereotyper, auto-immune disorder of sorts, maybe fuelled by PTSD or closed minded and sealed, immune to reality.

Re "In my world only individuals matter, can be held responsible, praised or condemned. Let that sink in.", this often heard phrase a typical Western argument about past history .. aDolf was the bad guy and 99% of Germans who voted for him have nothing to do what happened

Geert Wilders is the bad guy not those who overwhelmingly voted for him

Natanyahu is the bad guy not Israeli electorate who voted him into power "again and again" last 20 yrs and now supporting him

This easy way out

Those who vote for Trump know exactly what Trump has in store for US, same as Israeli electorate knew and knows about Natanyahu plan and that is why he was re-elected many times and still in power


So, don't come with Individual BS

As for morality: mine is superior to anything ever produced by East, West, North or South.

.. good to hear that, but for sure does not feel like that .. but again question was not your morality but Western Culture and Civilization operating on

Debate is not about Parodite, debate is about Western history, culture and civilization versus Eastern on.

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[Heracleum Persicum]

Don't want to be shot or bombed ? Don't take and torture and/or murder civilian hostages.

Quite simple.

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Cuts both way ..

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[Parodite]

Did I ever comment about any poster personality ? I consider on the other side a chatBot who will debate my arguments ..

This debate not about HP .. whether HP arrogant racist, a stereotyper, auto-immune disorder of sorts, maybe fuelled by PTSD or closed minded and sealed, immune to reality.

Continued here.

[noddy]

must say that after 122 pages of how much Azari hates the juden, Im waiting with breathless anticipation about what page 123 brings.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Would it make any difference if not 300 but 100 civilians and 3 detainees had been killed freeing 4 detainees ? or even 50

A case of ethical laundering through theater. We will not abstract acts out of their context and apply it to ourselves, as if we are culpable participants.

[Heracleum Persicum]

must say that after 122 pages of how much Azari hates the juden, Im waiting with breathless anticipation about what page 123 brings.

Well , history will tell who hates Juden , Azari or Natanyahu

Natanyahu is an "Ukrainian Charlatan" who neither believes in judaism nor cares about Juden .. he head of Eastern European Crime Syndicate..

Only fools believe you can have a secure and safe "Der Judenstaat" by killing the original population.

Azari said Ashkenazim Juden should talk to Middle Eastern people, and ask to be accommodated.

Best is to talk to Mull*hs

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[Heracleum Persicum]

Did I ever comment about any poster personality ? I consider on the other side a chatBot who will debate my arguments ..

This debate not about HP .. whether HP arrogant racist, a stereotyper, auto-immune disorder of sorts, maybe fuelled by PTSD or closed minded and sealed, immune to reality.

Continued here.

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Einstein (supposedly) said, "beauty of things is in it's simplicity", so, Parodite, your talkin is for HP too high level, HP a commoner

Spit out what you really have in your heart, in simple words .. world now crossing all "red lines" on daily bases, killing 1000s one afternoon just like going to Picnic .. everything goes .. so, dont be shy, spit it out.
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[Heracleum Persicum]

Well done, Israel.


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Yes, very well done

BBC

How Gaza hostage raid ended with Israel striking crowded streets

Israeli special forces freed female hostage Noa Argamani using the element of surprise - but another team which had freed three male hostages came under attack prompting the Israeli military to launch massive air strikes on crowded nearby streets as covering fire, killing scores of Palestinians.

Shooting into crowded street ? ? that lowers the bar ..

And

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c511vl9yjwwo

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So what?

Don't want to be shot or bombed? Don't take and torture and/or murder civilian hostages.

Quite simple.

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United Nation
Gaza civilian deaths in Israel's hostage raid may be war crimes

"The manner in which the raid was conducted in such a densely populated area seriously calls into question whether the principles of distinction, proportionality and precaution - as set out under the laws of war - were respected by the Israeli forces," Jeremy Laurence, spokesperson for the U.N. human rights office, said.

IDF now at par with Hamas


Mull*hs hittin JackPots on the go.

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[NapLajoieonSteroids]

The grand joke is that HP wants to kick out the only Jewish group which has a contingent of advocates for his position, leaving only the people [hint: the ones kicked out of middle east countries] who are consistently opposed to any sort of compromise with Arabs and Pomegranates and Turks.

[Typhoon]

must say that after 122 pages of how much Azari hates the juden, Im waiting with breathless anticipation about what page 123 brings.

Indeed.

It never ceases to amaze me as to how the Jews live rent free in so many peoples heads in the West, in the Muslim ME, and in the turd, pardon me, third world.

Russia kills some 200,000 Muslim Chechens over the course of two wars. Crickets.
PR China places Muslim Uighurs in concentration - reeducation camps. Crickets.
The Muslim terrorist group Boko Haram has murdered some 62,000 Nigerian Christians to-date. Crickets.

Israel retaliates against acts of terror against civilians by the Gazan elected and supported terrorist group Hamas.
Global concern. And billions in funds.

[Parodite]

The grand joke is that HP wants to kick out the only Jewish group which has a contingent of advocates for his position, leaving only the people [hint: the ones kicked out of middle east countries] who are consistently opposed to any sort of compromise with Arabs and Pomegranates and Turks.

True. Azjkenazis go home!

To compromise may be a folly developed in Europe. Win-lose, everything or nothing, is the more popular game in the Muddy East.

It could be that the ones who were the spearheads in conquering Israeli territory with raw secular powah, decide its time to leave Crazytown to the crazies and their God. It was his idea anyways, so let him figure it out. Like what cannon fodder should serve in the IDF and what sacred dicks are exempted.

[Typhoon]

Don't want to be shot or bombed ? Don't take and torture and/or murder civilian hostages.

Quite simple.

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Cuts both way ..

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Israel does not randomly kill non-combatant civilians or take them hostage. Nor does it rape and murder the Gazan women.

Unlike the terrorist organization Hamas, they are not barbarians.

[Heracleum Persicum]

Don't want to be shot or bombed ? Don't take and torture and/or murder civilian hostages.

Quite simple.

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Cuts both way ..

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Israel does not randomly kill non-combatant civilians or take them hostage. Nor does it rape and murder the Gazan women.

Unlike the terrorist organization Hamas, they are not barbarians.

It is stupid to delete my posts

unless you guys want to debate with yourself and stay illiterate

Silly

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[Heracleum Persicum]

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3J-kKb8qd5o



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[Typhoon]

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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/3J-kKb8qd5o



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A handful of useful idiots.

[Typhoon]

Don't want to be shot or bombed ? Don't take and torture and/or murder civilian hostages.

Quite simple.

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Cuts both way ..

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Israel does not randomly kill non-combatant civilians or take them hostage. Nor does it rape and murder the Gazan women.

Unlike the terrorist organization Hamas, they are not barbarians.

It is stupid to delete my posts
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Not sure what post you are referring to, however, as noted repeatedly off topic posts are summarily deleted.

I don't know of any other Western or Japanese board that would tolerate so many monomaniacal posts of pro-Hamas terrorist and pro-Iran regressive-repressive theocracy agitprop.

Also, no one here is being forced to participate. No hostages being forced to post at gunpoint.

Protip: don't try to bite the hand that tolerates you.

[Parodite]

Ido Aharoni & Dan Scheuftan: The Real Story of 10/7
https://youtu.be/3moUXO7fiqw?si=57wkGxfmsuwuzi7U