Thank you Very MUCH for your post, Azari.Crocus sativus wrote:monster_gardener wrote:.Crocus sativus wrote:.Hoosiernorm wrote:.
Iran Will Become a 'Christian Country,' Says Evangelical Pastor
http://www.christianpost.com/news/iran- ... W0SsRTz.99
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An Iranian evangelical pastor has stated that eventually the Islamic Republic of Iran will become a "Christian country," even amid increased state-sponsored persecution.
Dr. Hormoz Shariat, founder of Iran Alive Ministries, told Family Research Council President Tony Perkins these things at an event sponsored by the FRC on Wednesday. "Iran will be a Christian country, and that's not up to me. It's Jeremiah 49:38 [that] promises that. We are moving in that direction fast," said Shariat.
"There is a spiritual vacuum in Iran and people are hungry spiritually. That's when we share the Gospel, share the Word of God through television people sit there for hours, take notes."
Shariat, who has a Christian broadcast that airs in Iran and has been dubbed "The Billy Graham of Iran," saw significant growth of Christianity in the nation.
"Iran is so open to the Gospel. So many people are come to Christ through our ministry in the US and in Europe, but especially in Iran," said Shariat. "As we share the Gospel through television, people come to Christ. And not just 'easy' believers, they have become dedicated followers of Jesus Christ."
Shariat's statements on the growth of Christianity in Iran correspond with a report by Open Doors USA, a persecution watchdog group. Open Doors reported in March that there was "explosive" growth of Christianity in the Islamic Republic, even while the regime of Iran is ranked by Open Doors as one of the worst persecutors of Christians.
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Religion , in reality, is, a, STATE OF MIND
Hindu or Buddhist or Christian or Jew or Muslim .. each of them, has their own peculiar state of mind .. they look at things differently, they look at life differently, their value, ethics, moral and and and differ
In that sense, anybody arguing, people with RUMI mindset would suddenly follow Erasmus von Rotterdam does not know the Iranians and their culture
in short, Dr. Hormoz Shariat does not know what he talking
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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.
How Much Roomis there in the Mind of an Ayatollah like Khomeini etc. for Rumi ?..........
Or are their thoughts basically the same ......
If not who holds the upper hand in Iran .....
Read Khomeini Green Book ........
Was not very impressed .......
Lot's of funky ritual purity crap......
Plus he seemed absolutely obsessed with tax collection .......
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Thank you for that question, to answer, I must go back a bit in history
What was the dispute between Pomegranates and Hellen ? ?
How could Cyrus proclaiming "universal human right", explicitly proclaiming in his emporium there will be no slaves, and at the same time coexist with Athenian civilization based on slavery (free labor, a competitive advantage) ? ? .. Hellenic democracy meant democracy ONLY for citizens, did not include the slaves, same with Rome
Persian civilization & culture, starting 2600 years ago, adapted "Universal Human Right" and fought for it
"Universal Human Right" incorporates JUSTICE .. so said Cyrus .. hens, Rule by Justice
Cyrus, throughout 2600 yrs of Persian history, is in flesh and bone of Persian culture, transferred from one generation to next not by preaching, but by acting such
Many atrocities in Persia since Cyrus did not happen by Pomegranates but by new-comers invading Persia from all directions, ruling Persia .. Arab dynasties, Mogul dynasties, all sorts of Turkish-Tribe dynasties and and .. during that period, 800+ yrs, Persian culture and civilization endured many hardship, withstood Arabisation, Turkization, Mongolian genocide, but survived, AND, absorbed the invaders trying to make a Mensch out of them
Persian giants, Rumi, Khayam, Saadi, Hafez, Nezami, Atar and and and, helped to a renaissance of Persian culture and civilization .. these Giants of Persian literature and science used Cyrus platform of "universal Human Right" within the new environment, Sunni Islam .. Persian philosophers and literates were the ones who gave Islam (a primitive Arab tribal phenomena) a philosophical depth, Islamic philosopher in reality Persian philosophers
When Ottoman kahlifa (head of islam) threatening Persia, Iran decided to have own "Islam-Ajam" .. hens inventing Iranian Shia 12-Emami.
The heart of Iranians Shia is JUSTICE .. for Iranian-Shia INJUSTICE done to Ali is heart of the corruption of path Islam took since, justly so up to this day
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Iranian-Shia is built around JUSTICE , grass-root
Students go to seminary, study history, logic, theology and and and .. become Mullah .. must EARN goodwill from community to climb higher, must gather followers by being accepted by community as JUST and a MENSCH .. only by acceptance by community would they qualify as MARJA, Marja in reality "Moral beacon of the community", a moral model accepted by community, somebody who people VOLUNTARILY follow and pay their donations to
Iranian Ayatollahs, including Khomeini, following Persian tradition and culture and civilization, speak only from a point of view of Justice and not Allah ordered this or that (like the Arab Sunni do)
In that sense, Monster, all Ayatollahs are Rumi follower .. Rumi was no atheist, all his carrier was attesting his love to G_D, but to the real G_D, to Humanität , hens Rumi poem :
Old man
in darkness of the town
oil lamp in the hand, searching
asked
what he looking for
searching for a MENSCH
When Ayatollahs want something to sink in, they do not recite Moh, but a poem of Rumi
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Really....... Including his son Cambyses for example..........Many atrocities in Persia since Cyrus did not happen by Pomegranates
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To be fair....... You said many......
And Many leaves room for Many More......
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Again I have read the Mullah/Ayatollah KhomeiniStudents go to seminary, study history, logic, theology and and and .. become Mullah .. must EARN goodwill from community to climb higher, must gather followers by being accepted by community as JUST and a MENSCH
If Ayatollah Khomeini is a good example of "Just and a Mensch"....
That don't impress me much.........
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Did Khayam when younger...... Liked him....... May do again...... Dangerous to do that though.....Persian giants, Rumi, Khayam, Saadi, Hafez, Nezami, Atar
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May try Some of the others.... Some looked Somewhat interesting......
Problem may be time....... Here and Elsewhen.........
RE: The Video......... The fact that the Saudi King drinks booze is IMVHO a point in his favor.........
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Less seriously It Might be better if he and Most Saudis and indeed Most Muslims were drunk Most of the Time......
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And Hung Over otherwise
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