Sen, of Queens, owned a shop called New Amsterdam Copies and was a graphic designer for posters, said Ar Suman, Sen's roommate.
In early December, Ki-Suck Han, 58, was shoved onto the tracks in a Times Square station as a train approached.
Thank You Very Much for your post, Azari.Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
" (She) said in sum and substance :
'I pushed a Muslim off the train tracks because I hate Hindus and Muslims ever since 2001 when they put down the twin towers I've been beating them up,' "
Sen, of Queens, owned a shop called New Amsterdam Copies and was a graphic designer for posters, said Ar Suman, Sen's roommate.
In early December, Ki-Suck Han, 58, was shoved onto the tracks in a Times Square station as a train approached.
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Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:.
Distrust of muslims might be mainstream, but violence against them is not.
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Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:In a nation of 310 million, there are always going to be a few crazy douchebags that hate Group X. Somewhere tomorrow, a Muslim will get harassed by a yokel, a white kid will get bullied by an angry minority, a homosexual will get beaten up... even Hinus and Buddhists will have enemies somewhere. In Hitlers Germany, killing a jew didnt make the news. Here, some psycho pushing a muslim onto the tracks goes viral.
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Quite right.Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:In a nation of 310 million, there are always going to be a few crazy douchebags that hate Group X. Somewhere tomorrow, a Muslim will get harassed by a yokel, a white kid will get bullied by an angry minority, a homosexual will get beaten up... even Hinus and Buddhists will have enemies somewhere. In Hitlers Germany, killing a jew didnt make the news. Here, some psycho pushing a muslim onto the tracks goes viral. Distrust of muslims might be mainstream, but violence against them is not.
Typhoon wrote:Quite right.Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:In a nation of 310 million, there are always going to be a few crazy douchebags that hate Group X. Somewhere tomorrow, a Muslim will get harassed by a yokel, a white kid will get bullied by an angry minority, a homosexual will get beaten up... even Hinus and Buddhists will have enemies somewhere. In Hitlers Germany, killing a jew didnt make the news. Here, some psycho pushing a muslim onto the tracks goes viral. Distrust of muslims might be mainstream, but violence against them is not.
Equating what was government policy once in Germany with the actions of a deranged individual is almost too silly to comment on.
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They are distrusted because a muslim commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis. You will retort that western nations kill more people through acts of war, but such acts, committed by democratic states, have been legitimated in the modern world order, even when misguided, while even the most reasonable act of aggression by a religious dictator is rightly considered a 1000 year old barbaric relic (let alone targeting school buses for suicide bombing). Also, please note that, in the west, when someone kills a muslim, we don't hold parades and celebrate in the streets.Heracleum Persicum wrote: question is, WHY the "distrust" ? ?
what have Muslims done to America ? ?
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Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:.They are distrusted because a muslim commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis. You will retort that western nations kill more people through acts of war, but such acts, committed by democratic states, have been legitimated in the modern world order, even when misguided, while even the most reasonable act of aggression by a religious dictator is rightly considered a 1000 year old barbaric relic (let alone targeting school buses for suicide bombing). Also, please note that, in the west, when someone kills a muslim, we don't hold parades and celebrate in the streets.Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
question is, WHY the "distrust" ? ?
what have Muslims done to America ? ?
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Perhaps. I don't keep count. However, this is not done to America on a weekly basis [9/11 was mostly dumb luck on the part of the perpetrators].Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:They are distrusted because a muslim commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis.Heracleum Persicum wrote: question is, WHY the "distrust" ? ?
what have Muslims done to America ? ?
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Murder is murder. The pretext and rationalization is irrelevant.Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:You will retort that western nations kill more people through acts of war, but such acts, committed by democratic states, have been legitimated in the modern world order, even when misguided, while even the most reasonable act of aggression by a religious dictator is rightly considered a 1000 year old barbaric relic (let alone targeting school buses for suicide bombing). Also, please note that, in the west, when someone kills a muslim, we don't hold parades and celebrate in the streets.
I was coming to say the same. So instead I say we ban Asians.Demon of Undoing wrote:Well, clearly, we have to ban subway trains. How many minorities will be crushed by these fascist tools of death?
Thank You Very Much for your post, Tinker.Enki wrote:I was coming to say the same. So instead I say we ban Asians.Demon of Undoing wrote:Well, clearly, we have to ban subway trains. How many minorities will be crushed by these fascist tools of death?
One more reason for some of the younger members of the clan to move off planet as soon as it is possible.......So instead I say we ban Asians.
Thank You VERY Much for your Reply, Tinker..........Enki wrote:There is no fix.
Heracleum Persicum wrote:Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:.They are distrusted because a muslim commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis. You will retort that western nations kill more people through acts of war, but such acts, committed by democratic states, have been legitimated in the modern world order, even when misguided, while even the most reasonable act of aggression by a religious dictator is rightly considered a 1000 year old barbaric relic (let alone targeting school buses for suicide bombing). Also, please note that, in the west, when someone kills a muslim, we don't hold parades and celebrate in the streets.Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
question is, WHY the "distrust" ? ?
what have Muslims done to America ? ?
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Those "commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis" are your allies and friends .. the Wahhabi and the sallafi .. they terrorizing the mainstream Muslims .. Morsi has pushed himself on Egyptians only with 20% of yes vote, backed by West and Israel, the so called "New Muslim Brotherhood" a CIA gang of crony
Muslims have been colonized by west, Christians, last 200 years, Muslims are in DEFENSIVE last 200 years
Pre Luther Christianity if not more vicious, 4sure not less, than Islam
West has sidelined Christianity, and, set on a vicious materialistic colonialism enslaving not only Muslim world but Africa, South America, South East Asia, India and and and
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West, last 80 years, using communism as excuse, wiped out all freedom and liberal faction in Middle East that would adapt Islam to modernity, instead, West has sided with fanatic Muslim faction (which exists in Christianity too), wiping out the liberal faction for decades to come .. Now, west is replacing Secular leaders with Wahhabi CIA cronies making a bad name for Islam
Evil is west and not Islam .. was Hitler evil or Christianity in what happened in Europe ?
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Thank G_d that they have been on the defensive.......Muslims are in DEFENSIVE last 200 years
Wrong......Evil is west and not Islam
oops I mean States and Nations of Depraved Sinful Egotistical Chaos Monkey Killer Apes...."For all have sinned and come short of the Glory of G_d"
Yes.was Hitler evil
Sometimes it was.....Christianity in what happened in Europe ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximilian ... _AuschwitzAfter the outbreak of World War II, which started with the invasion of his nation by Nazi Germany, Kolbe provided shelter to refugees from Greater Poland, including 2,000 Jews whom he hid from Nazi persecution in his friary in Niepokalanów.[15] On 17 February 1941, he was arrested by the German Gestapo and imprisoned in the Pawiak prison. On 28 May, he was transferred to Auschwitz as prisoner #16670.[16]
At the end of July 1941, three prisoners disappeared from the camp, prompting SS-Hauptsturmführer Karl Fritzsch, the deputy camp commander, to pick 10 men to be starved to death in an underground bunker in order to deter further escape attempts. When one of the selected men, Franciszek Gajowniczek, cried out, "My wife! My children!", Kolbe volunteered to take his place.[17]
In his prison cell, Kolbe celebrated Mass each day and sang hymns with the prisoners.[citation needed] He led the other condemned men in song and prayer and encouraged them by telling them they would soon be with Mary in Heaven. Each time the guards checked on him, he was standing or kneeling in the middle of the cell and looking calmly at those who entered. After two weeks of dehydration and starvation, only Kolbe remained alive. The guards wanted the bunker emptied and they gave Kolbe a lethal injection of carbolic acid. Some who were present at the injection say that he raised his left arm and calmly waited for the injection.[18] His remains were cremated on 15 August, the feast day of the Assumption of Mary.[2]
Thank You Very Much for your post, Typhoon.Typhoon wrote:Perhaps. I don't keep count. However, this is not done to America on a weekly basis [9/11 was mostly dumb luck on the part of the perpetrators].Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:They are distrusted because a muslim commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis.Heracleum Persicum wrote: question is, WHY the "distrust" ? ?
what have Muslims done to America ? ?
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Americans kill far more Americans than does anyone else.
[Including suicide: recently more US soldiers have been dying through suicide than any enemy action.]
Murder is murder. The pretext and rationalization is irrelevant.Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:You will retort that western nations kill more people through acts of war, but such acts, committed by democratic states, have been legitimated in the modern world order, even when misguided, while even the most reasonable act of aggression by a religious dictator is rightly considered a 1000 year old barbaric relic (let alone targeting school buses for suicide bombing). Also, please note that, in the west, when someone kills a muslim, we don't hold parades and celebrate in the streets.
Whatever the self-inflicted misery in the ME, of which there is no lack, the disproportionate involvement of the US in the region is more then sufficient motivation for many on the receiving end to dislike the US.
On the home front, the campaign of demonization and dehumanization of Muslims by large swaths of the US media [Spenglerman included] should give one pause.
If one replaced "muslim" by any other religious or ethnic group in these screeds, then it would be prosecuted as hate speech.
IMVHO, Not so much..........9/11 was mostly dumb luck on the part of the perpetrators].
True.....Whatever the self-inflicted misery in the ME, of which there is no lack, the disproportionate involvement of the US in the region is more then sufficient motivation for many on the receiving end to dislike the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_WarIn March 1785, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). Upon inquiring "concerning the ground of the pretensions to make war upon nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:
It was written in their Koran, that all nations which had not acknowledged the Prophet were sinners, whom it was the right and duty of the faithful to plunder and enslave; and that every mussulman who was slain in this warfare was sure to go to paradise.
Muslims are taught to hate & despise non-Muslims by the Islamic Hate Speech Screeds known as the Koran, Hadiths, Sunna and Fiqh.......If one replaced "muslim" by any other religious or ethnic group in these screeds, then it would be prosecuted as hate speech.
be banned and those who Preach from them be Prosecuted? People in Japan with issues are more likely to kill themselves than others.monster_gardener wrote:Thank You VERY Much for your Reply, Tinker..........Enki wrote:There is no fix.
Wondering how the Japanese handle this with their trains?.............
In the old days I remember reading about Japanese committing suicide by putting their heads over the tracks......
People packing only occurs on the busiest lines during rush hour: Yamanote line in Tokyo, Midosuji line in Osaka, etc.monster_gardener wrote:But I have not heard of that with the advent of the famous Bullet Trains despite there being such a press of people that AIUI there are paid employees who push people into the packed like sardines trains.
Soliciting comment from our esteemed host, Typhoon.
Seems we ought to be able to do this safer.......
This is trains on a track.......
Not riding rockets/bombs into Space.........
Thank You VERY MUCH for your reply, Typhoon.Typhoon wrote:People in Japan with issues are more likely to kill themselves than others.monster_gardener wrote:Thank You VERY Much for your Reply, Tinker..........Enki wrote:There is no fix.
Wondering how the Japanese handle this with their trains?.............
In the old days I remember reading about Japanese committing suicide by putting their heads over the tracks......
The Chuo and Yamanote lines in Tokyo are still popular. There are occasional delays due to suicide.
People packing only occurs on the busiest lines during rush hour: Yamanote line in Tokyo, Midosuji line in Osaka, etc.monster_gardener wrote:But I have not heard of that with the advent of the famous Bullet Trains despite there being such a press of people that AIUI there are paid employees who push people into the packed like sardines trains.
Soliciting comment from our esteemed host, Typhoon.
Seems we ought to be able to do this safer.......
This is trains on a track.......
Not riding rockets/bombs into Space.........
Not done on the Shinkansen [literally New Track Line: the bullet trains]
The Kyoto Tozai [East West] subway line solution:
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Not ubiquitous.
i think Singapore and Bangkok have similar installations to name a few. As does one of the subway lines in Tokyo.
That is sad but as long as the person kills only himself or herself IMVHO much better than what we uz do too often......People in Japan with issues are more likely to kill themselves than others.
Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:In a nation of 310 million, there are always going to be a few crazy douchebags that hate Group X. Somewhere tomorrow, a Muslim will get harassed by a yokel, a white kid will get bullied by an angry minority, a homosexual will get beaten up... even Hinus and Buddhists will have enemies somewhere. In Hitlers Germany, killing a jew didnt make the news. Here, some psycho pushing a Muslim onto the tracks goes viral. Distrust of Muslims might be mainstream, but violence against them is not.
Amusing justification for the murder of civilians. "Its different when we do it, because I pay for and directly support this kind of murder, so it has to be ok. Otherwise I would look/feel bad."Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:They are distrusted because a Muslim commits the equivalent of a Sandy Hook elementary massacre on a weekly basis. You will retort that western nations kill more people through acts of war, but such acts, committed by democratic states, have been legitimated in the modern world orderHeracleum Persicum wrote: question is, WHY the "distrust" ? ?
what have Muslims done to America ? ?
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Well, Georgetown students do. Besides you give your soldiers medals, commendations, promotions, parades, you pay them, and you call them heroes. You don't just materially support their actions, you celebrate them, even though their record of torture and civilian murder is well established, and their decades-long wars against third-world nations using the most advanced technology in existence have been failures. So it narrows down what you could actually be celebrating.Also, please note that, in the west, when someone kills a Muslim, we don't hold parades and celebrate in the streets.
Or put those automated walls on the platforms that make being pushed onto the tracks impossible. I saw them in Seoul, Col Sun linked pics of them in Singapore. Why not NYC?Demon of Undoing wrote:Well, clearly, we have to ban subway trains. How many minorities will be crushed by these fascist tools of death?
