Re: U.S. Foreign Policy
Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:24 pm
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monster_gardener wrote:Hello!Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
What about Russia and eastern Europe that were wiped out, losing 25 million Russians and millions East Europeans ? ?Remember that Hitler and that DumbA$$ Stalin were ALLIES until Hitler betrayed Stalin......
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A number of prominent and wealthy American businessmen helped to support fascist regimes in Europe from the 1920s through the 1940s.
These people helped to support Francisco Franco during the Spanish Civil War of 1936, as well as Benito Mussolini, and Adolph Hitler.
Some of the primary and more famous Americans and companies that were involved with the fascist regimes of Europe are: William Randolph Hearst, Joseph Kennedy (JFK's father), Charles Lindbergh, John Rockefeller, Andrew Mellon (head of Alcoa, banker, and Secretary of Treasury), DuPont, General Motors, Standard Oil (now Exxon), Ford, ITT, Allen Dulles (later head of the CIA), Prescott Bush, National City Bank, and General Electric.
It should be noted that businessmen from many countries, including England and Australia, also worked with the fascist regimes of Europe prior to WWII. The fascist governments were involved in a high level of construction, production, and international business.
I.G. Farben, a German company, was the largest chemical manufacturing enterprise in the world during the early part of the 20th century. As such the company had many holdings in a variety of countries, including America. The American holdings of I.G. Farben included Bayer Co., General Aniline Works, Agfa Ansco, and Winthrop Chemical Company.
I.G. Farben was critical in the development of the German economy and war machine leading up to WWII. During this time I.G. Farben's international holdings along with its international business contracts with companies like Standard Oil, DuPont, Alcoa, and Dow Chemical were crucial in supplying the Nazi regime with the materials needed for war as well as financial support.
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much much more at link .. declassified
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There are limits to tolerating apologists for Stalin, one of the greatest mass murderers in human history.Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
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come on, CS, come on .. these facts from history books
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in this day and age, seems, day is night, water runing uphill, Ukrainians and Latvian and Estonians and Khazari and Poles become son & Daughters of Sara BY MIRACLE ..![]()
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Who cares, CS, who cares
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Oh that reminds me !!Typhoon wrote:There are limits to tolerating apologists for Stalin, one of the greatest mass murderers in human history.Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
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come on, CS, come on .. these facts from history books
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in this day and age, seems, day is night, water runing uphill, Ukrainians and Latvian and Estonians and Khazari and Poles become son & Daughters of Sara BY MIRACLE ..![]()
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Who cares, CS, who cares
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In 1932, Hitler was given the name Abu Ali in Syria, and he was named Muhammad Haidar in Egypt.[20] Adolf Hitler was celebrated in large parts of the Arab world, and some newspapers even likened him to the Prophet. Erwin Rommel was almost as popular as Hitler. Arabs Shouted "Heil Rommel" as a common greeting in Arab countries. Many Arabs thought the Germans would free them from the rule of the old colonial powers France and Britain. After France's defeat by Nazi Germany in 1940, some Arabs were chanting against the French and British around the streets of Damascus: "No more Monsieur, no more Mister, Allah's in Heaven and Hitler's on earth."[21] Posters with Arabic sayings: "In heaven God is your ruler, on earth Hitler" were frequently displayed in shops in the towns of Syria.[22]
There were many wealthy Arabs who traveled to Germany in the 1930s and brought back fascist ideals and incorporated them into Arab Nationalism.[23] One of the principal founders of Ba'athist thought and the Ba'ath Party, Zaki al-Arsuzi, stated that Fascism and Nazism had greatly influenced Ba'athist ideology. An associate of al-Arsuzi, Sami al-Jundi, wrote:
"We were racists. We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading Nazi literature and books that were the source of the Nazi spirit. We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism. Michel Aflaq a founder of the Ba'athist philosophy admired Hitler and the Nazis for standing up to Britain and America. This admiration would combine aspects of Nazism into Ba'athism."[24][25]
Haj Amin al-Husseini and Adolf Hitler on 28 November 1941.
The two most noted Arab politicians who actively collaborated with the Nazis were Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (al Quds) Haj Amin al-Husseini,[26] [27] and the Iraqi prime minister Rashid Ali al-Gaylani.[28][29]
1943 Hanzar Nazi Division Flag
In 1943, Amin Al Husseini heads the Hanzar Division of Nazi Muslims. It was Hitler's largest SS Division and was responsible for the genocide of Serbians, Gypsies and Jews. It lies at the root of today's unrest in Serbia/Bosnia-Hercegovina/Croatia.
Muslim Nazi troops in traditional Muslim prayer -1943
Cairo, Egypt. 1946. Laying the foundations of Post-WWII world.
Amin Al Husseini as President of World Islamic Congress. With him are the founder of Pakistan, the King of Lybia, the Secretary-General of the Arab League, the founder of the Muslim Brotherhood, the first Prime Minister of Pakistan and Saudi Advisers amonst others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations_ ... Hitler.jpgMuslim Soldiers reading German Propaganda.
The name of the book is Islam Und Judentum
(Islam and Judaism in German)
Relations between Nazi Germany and the Arab World refers to political and military links between Germany and Arab nationalists during the era of Nazi Germany (1933–1945). The relationship between the Nazi movement and leadership and the Arab world encompassed contempt, propaganda, collaboration and in some instances emulation. Cooperative relationships were founded on shared hostilities toward common enemies, such as British and French imperialism, colonialism, and Zionism.
Nazi perceptions of the Arab World
A famous anecdote about Adolf Hitler's perspectives towards Islam and the Arabs is recounted by Albert Speer in his best-selling memoir, Inside the Third Reich. Speer reports that "Hitler had been much impressed by a scrap of history he had learned from a delegation of distinguished Arabs."[1] The delegation had speculated that the world would have become "Mohammedan" if the Berbers and Arabs had won the Battle of Tours in the 8th Century AD, and that the Germans would have become heirs to "a religion that believed in spreading the faith by the sword and in subjugating all nations to that faith. Such a creed was perfectly suited to the German temperament."[2] Speer then presents Hitler's own speculations on this subject:
Hitler said that the conquering Arabs, because of their racial inferiority, would in the long run have been unable to contend with the harsher climate of the country. They could not have kept down the more vigorous natives, so that ultimately not Arabs but Islamized Germans could have stood at the head of this Mohammedan Empire.[3]
This exchange occurred when Hitler received Saudi Arabian ruler Ibn Saud’s special envoy, Khalid al-Hud al-Gargani.[4] Earlier in this meeting Hitler noted that one of the three reasons why Germany had warm sympathies for the Arabs was:
… because we were jointly fighting the Jews. This led him to discuss Palestine and conditions there, and he then stated that he himself would not rest until the last Jew had left Germany. Kalid al Hud observed that the Prophet Mohammed … had acted the same way. He had driven the Jews out of Arabia ….[5]
Gilbert Achcar wryly observes that the Fuhrer did not point out to his Arab visitors at that meeting that until then he had incited German Jews to emigrate to Palestine, and the Reich actively helped Zionist organizations get around British-imposed restrictions on Jewish immigration.[6]
Achcar also points out that the German version of "Mein Kampf" designates the Arab people as one of the lowest races of humanity, though this section was not included in the Arabic translations of the book.[6] Hitler had told his military commanders in 1939, shortly before the start of the war:
We shall continue to make disturbances in the Far East and in Arabia. Let us think as men and let us see in these peoples at best lacquered half-apes who are anxious to experience the lash.[7][8]
Prior to the Second World War, all of North Africa and the Middle-East were under the control of European powers. Despite the Nazi racial theories which denigrated Arabs as members of an inferior Semitic race, many Germans made exceptions for the Arabs who assisted the Reich in fighting the British for possession of the Middle East. Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, for example, was granted "honorary Aryan" status by the Nazis for his close collaboration with Hitler and Nazi Germany.[9][10]
The German government developed a cordial association and cooperated with certain Arab nationalist leaders based on their common anti-colonial and anti-Zionist interests. The most notable examples of these common-cause fights were the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine and other actions led by Grand Mufti Haj Amin al-Husseini, and the Anglo-Iraqi War, when the Golden Square (four generals led by Rashid Ali al-Gaylani) overthrew the pro-British 'Abd al-Ilah regency in Iraq and installed a pro-Axis regime.[11][12][13]
In response to the Rashid Ali coup, Hitler issued Führer Directive No. 30 on 23 May 1941 to support their cause. This order began: "The Arab Freedom Movement in the Middle East is our natural ally against England."[13]
General der Flieger Hellmuth Felmy was appointed central authority for all Arab affairs concerning the Wehrmacht under the terms of this "Directive No. 30".[14] General Felmy summarized the military perspective on strategic common interests of German and Arab nationalists in the following passage:
The already tense situation in the Middle East was further complicated by the emergence of Jewish nationalistic aspirations. Arab hatred of the Jews and disappointment at the failed Arab hopes for independence led to bloody riots. At first purely anti-Jewish in nature and directed against the rapidly increasing Jewish immigration into Palestine, the uprisings were later aimed at Great Britain as the mandatory power. The situation continued to be unsatisfactory until the outbreak of World War II, when it was overshadowed by the crisis in Europe. When England declared war on Germany the Zionist organizations, which had actively supported the influx of Jewish immigrants in Palestine, at once proclaimed solidarity with Britain against Germany.[15]
On 11 June 1941 Hitler and the and Supreme Commander of the Armed Forces issued Directive No. 32, titled "Preparations for the period after 'Barbarossa'" which read (in part):
Exploitation of the Arab Freedom Movement. The situation of the English in the Middle East will be rendered more precarious, in the event of major German operations, if more British forces are tied down at the right moment by civil commotion or revolt. All military, political, and propaganda measures to this end must be closely coordinated during the preparatory period. As central agency abroad I nominate Special Staff F, which is to take part in all plans and actions in the Arab area, whose headquarters are to be in the area of the Commander Armed Forces South-east. The most competent available experts and agents will be made available to it. The Chief of the High Command of the Armed Forces will specify the duties of Special Staff F, in agreement with the Foreign Minister where political questions are involved.[16]
General der Artillerie Walter Warlimont, who was involved in military alliances with Arab allies, reports that many German officers believed:
...the only real political rallying point among the Arabs was their common hatred of the Jews, while "Arab nationalist movements" as such, because of the diversity of interests in the various Arab countries, existed only on paper.[17]
I personally know a few of those Iranians of Jewish faith that were in Paris and now live in L.A..
Mr Sardari wrote numerous letters to Nazi officials telling elaborate stories about how Iranian Jews- who had been spared from Babylonian slavery by ancient Persian ruler Cyrus the Great- should be given the same status under Nazi rule as all other Iranians.
Another rationale that he used at one point was that Iranian Jews were not the same as the Jews that the Nazis so overtly despised since they were not blood-related to European Jewry.
Though some were initially hesitant to buy this version of events, the Nazis eventually relented and gave them the same status as the rest of their fellow Iranians. Before doing so, Nazi officials commissioned racial purity experts investigated the claim but it is thought that a lack of physical and financial resources forced them to cut it short and simply agree.
Another move that Mr Sardari used was to issue Paris-based Iranian Jews new passports: many of the Iranians in Paris at the time of the war had not renewed their passports after their home country went through a regime change, and so by falsifying those documents, Mr Sardari found a bureaucratic way to able to help Jews evade capture.
Exact numbers are not known, but the estimated headcount of people that Mr Sardari helped saved is in the thousands, many of whom ended up fleeing home to Iran or eventually ending up in America.
He was thought to have had 1,000 passports in his consulate safe at the beginning of the war- each of which could be used for more than one person- so experts put the number of lives saved between 2,000 and 3,000.
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Honored several times by Jewish-American groups, his only known public remark before his 1981 death came as a humble comment to the Israeli National Holocaust Memorial.
'As you may know, I had the pleasure of being the Iranian Consul in Paris during the German occupation of France, and as such it was my duty to save all Iranians, including Iranian Jews,' Mr Sardari said.
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are both fascist .. this nothing to do with Christianity (Hitler) or Islam (Arabs)Heracleum Persicum wrote:.
Arabs & Zionist
I think I pretty clearly established that
Zionist = Jews
Zionist = Jew
I personally know a few of those Iranians of Jewish faith that were in Paris and now live in L.A..
Mr Sardari wrote numerous letters to Nazi officials telling elaborate stories about how Iranian Jews- who had been spared from Babylonian slavery by ancient Persian ruler Cyrus the Great- should be given the same status under Nazi rule as all other Iranians.
Another rationale that he used at one point was that Iranian Jews were not the same as the Jews that the Nazis so overtly despised since they were not blood-related to European Jewry.
Though some were initially hesitant to buy this version of events, the Nazis eventually relented and gave them the same status as the rest of their fellow Iranians. Before doing so, Nazi officials commissioned racial purity experts investigated the claim but it is thought that a lack of physical and financial resources forced them to cut it short and simply agree.
Another move that Mr Sardari used was to issue Paris-based Iranian Jews new passports: many of the Iranians in Paris at the time of the war had not renewed their passports after their home country went through a regime change, and so by falsifying those documents, Mr Sardari found a bureaucratic way to able to help Jews evade capture.
Exact numbers are not known, but the estimated headcount of people that Mr Sardari helped saved is in the thousands, many of whom ended up fleeing home to Iran or eventually ending up in America.
He was thought to have had 1,000 passports in his consulate safe at the beginning of the war- each of which could be used for more than one person- so experts put the number of lives saved between 2,000 and 3,000.
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Honored several times by Jewish-American groups, his only known public remark before his 1981 death came as a humble comment to the Israeli National Holocaust Memorial.
'As you may know, I had the pleasure of being the Iranian Consul in Paris during the German occupation of France, and as such it was my duty to save all Iranians, including Iranian Jews,' Mr Sardari said.
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Doc wrote:.
Arthur Schindler was a German. Does that mean all Germany helped the Jews during the Nazi reign? Are there any monuments to Mr Sardari in Iran honoring him for saving Jews??
No it does not. While I as most know there is a long history between Iran and Jews. You again made the assertion that European Jews are somehow not related to Middle Eastern Jews. And Again I must post that this is at best a misconception at worse a bigoted lie, intended as a racist lie.
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Perhaps I have a bias toward facts over words, but I say the reality of Iranian civility toward Jews tells us more about Iran — its sophistication and culture — than all the inflammatory rhetoric.
That may be because I’m a Jew and have seldom been treated with such consistent warmth as in Iran. Or perhaps I was impressed that the fury over Gaza, trumpeted on posters and Iranian TV, never spilled over into insults or violence toward Jews. Or perhaps it’s because I’m convinced the “Mad Mullah” caricature of Iran and likening of any compromise with it to Munich 1938 — a position popular in some American Jewish circles — is misleading and dangerous.
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Typhoon wrote:The National Socialist movement in Germany, in general, and Hitler, in particular, had a lot of admirers around the the world before the start of WWII.
It was the time of the Great Depression and many people subscribed to the belief that the combination of democracy + capitalism had failed.
Some believed that Fascism was the solution, others that the solution was Communism.
As it turned out, both groups were wrong.
Iranian scientist Maryam Mirzakhani has become the first-ever woman to receive the prestigious Fields Medal, often described as the "Nobel Prize in Mathematics."
Mirzakhani got her bachelor's degree from Sharif University of Technology in 1999. After that she began her doctorate work at Harvard University under the guidance of another Fields medalist, Curt McMullen.
In 2008, she became a professor of mathematics at Stanford, where she lives with her husband and three-year-old daughter.
Her thesis showed how to compute the Weil-Petersson volumes of moduli spaces of bordered Riemann surfaces. Her research interests include Teichmüller theory, hyperbolic geometry, ergodic theory, and symplectic geometry. She is currently professor of mathematics at Stanford University, and predominantly works on geometric structures on surfaces and their deformations.
Torchwood wrote:.
She is not only the first woman ever to win the Fields medal, also the first person from the Middle East. Congratulations to her.
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Torchwood wrote:.
But, as a good Iranian woman, Azari, shouldn't she be at home wrapped in a bedsheet having babies, rather than doing all this stuff which is for men? She is even married to an infidel
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Torchwood wrote:Good post Azari, only trying to wind you up.
The fight against Muslim fundamentalism in the UK is being led by a feisty Iranian woman
The only downside is that she is an idealistic Communist, but these days that is rather quaint and naive and far less threatening than fundamentalist religion , thirty years ago it was the reverse. Sadly it seems that when people leave a totalitarian faith they often drift into another; the (ex-Catholic) French love affair with Marxism is another example, Fascism was strongest in Catholic Europe. Liberal secularism is not unique to Protestant cultures, but it does seem to thrive best there.
Heracleum Persicum wrote:Torchwood wrote:.
Iranian woman, since 5000 yrs, were never wrapped in a bedsheets caring babies, they backbone of Iranian society, culture and civilization
In fact, since mad mullahs took over, woman ARE the fearless combatants fighting the Ayatollahs, most jailed Human Right lawyers etc are woman .. Iranian woman, now, are much more advanced, emancipated than Shah's time .. right now, nobody can confront Iranian woman, least the Ayatollahs .. Efforts by the mad mullahs to suppress the woman has lead to explosive reaction for emaciation and advances in all domain for woman in Iran .. most medical doctors and specialist are now woman, majority in most faculty in university are woman, so that government had to introduce "affirmation action" for men in universities, many scientist (and technocrats) now woman
As now countries like Iran becoming 100% literate and building top notch universities, there will be many more "Prof Maryam Mirzakhani" to come .. I remember, in ATOL fora, Pasta & Ellen were boasting about all those Jewish Nobel winners, I mentioned to them things now gonno change as Middle East and China and others kickin in
http://www.iranreview.org/content/Docum ... -Minds.htm
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HAL 10000 wrote:Heracleum Persicum wrote:Torchwood wrote:.
Iranian woman, since 5000 yrs, were never wrapped in a bedsheets caring babies, they backbone of Iranian society, culture and civilization
In fact, since mad mullahs took over, woman ARE the fearless combatants fighting the Ayatollahs, most jailed Human Right lawyers etc are woman .. Iranian woman, now, are much more advanced, emancipated than Shah's time .. right now, nobody can confront Iranian woman, least the Ayatollahs .. Efforts by the mad mullahs to suppress the woman has lead to explosive reaction for emaciation and advances in all domain for woman in Iran .. most medical doctors and specialist are now woman, majority in most faculty in university are woman, so that government had to introduce "affirmation action" for men in universities, many scientist (and technocrats) now woman
As now countries like Iran becoming 100% literate and building top notch universities, there will be many more "Prof Maryam Mirzakhani" to come .. I remember, in ATOL fora, Pasta & Ellen were boasting about all those Jewish Nobel winners, I mentioned to them things now gonno change as Middle East and China and others kickin in
http://www.iranreview.org/content/Docum ... -Minds.htm
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Congratulations!
On this occasion, it is worth noting that
1) Only secular countries (mostly western secular countries to be exact) have the policy of allowing and even encouraging the immigration of large number of people who are not members of the mainstream religion, i.e. they allow non-Christian immigration without any restriction. This is why the Iranian mathematician was invited to the top American universities both as a student on full scholarship, and later as a full professor as an equal to the rest of Americans. As long as the religious government is in power in Iran, very few Christians would not be allowed to ascend to important positions in Iranian universities. Ahmedinejad said that he wanted to eradicate Christianity in Iran and he cracked down on those who convert to Christianity.
2) On the other hand, no country with a Muslim majority (with the exception of Azerbaijan that has a secular government) accepts a significant number of non-Muslim immigrants.
3) If I remember correctly, the Iranian mathematician at Stanford, married a Christian gentleman of European ancestry, and although I don't know them personally, I assume the she probably did not ask him to convert to Islam in order to marry her. On the other hand, in Iran such a mixed marriage would have been much more difficult because Islam does not allow it if it is applied to regular life.
4) I don't think this Iranian mathematician at Stanford would be against the existence of Israel. In fact, if Iranian women were allowed to ascend to important positions at the political level in Iran, then Iran would actually change its anti-Israel posture and actually recognize Israel's right to exist.
Again, with your characteristic dishonesty and bigotry, you are diverting attention from what I said about Iran and all countries that have religious Muslim governments: they do NOT give equality to non-Muslims, and they do NOT allow significant non-Muslim immigration. You are diverging attention from what I said about scholarship: I ONLY said that the US institutions GAVE the scholarship to a Muslim Iranian and accepted her as an immigrant as an equal to all Americans, even though she is from a country that is in a state of low intensity war with the US. I did NOT say the Iranians themselves discriminate against foreigners inside the US or Europe, but once inside Iran, the government would never accept Christian immigrants.Heracleum Persicum wrote: Re Professor Maryam Mirzakhani and non-christian immigration and full scholarship and other rubbish, this has nothing to do with immigration or scholarship or Christianity .. this has to do with quality of Iranian universities, high quality of Iranian education and literacy, level of woman emancipation in Iran and coming Nobel prices that Middle Eastern and Chinese will win and high level science in Middle east and and (where did Einstein and Teller and Pauli study ? ? in German universities (zero tuition) with German Professors, they did not get where they got being in "Jewish school excelling in wisdom of "Talmud Tanakh") .. re marrying a non Iranian man, Iranian man and woman marry many westerners, many Germans and French and Swiss and and, no problemo whether Christian or Atheist or whatever (that is the Iranian way, no prejudice and tolerance), we marry all ethnics and love it
In two to three generations, Iran will be China-II, and than go figure, highly unlikely present Israel would still be around
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There is no national science, just as there is no national multiplication table; what is national is no longer science.
― Anton Chekhov
HAL 10000 wrote:Again, with your characteristic dishonesty and bigotry, you are diverting attention from what I said about Iran and all countries that have religious Muslim governments: they do NOT give equality to non-Muslims, and they do NOT allow significant non-Muslim immigration. You are diverging attention from what I said about scholarship: I ONLY said that the US institutions GAVE the scholarship to a Muslim Iranian and accepted her as an immigrant as an equal to all Americans, even though she is from a country that is in a state of low intensity war with the US. I did NOT say the Iranians themselves discriminate against foreigners inside the US or Europe, but once inside Iran, the government would never accept Christian immigrants.Heracleum Persicum wrote: Re Professor Maryam Mirzakhani and non-christian immigration and full scholarship and other rubbish, this has nothing to do with immigration or scholarship or Christianity .. this has to do with quality of Iranian universities, high quality of Iranian education and literacy, level of woman emancipation in Iran and coming Nobel prices that Middle Eastern and Chinese will win and high level science in Middle east and and (where did Einstein and Teller and Pauli study ? ? in German universities (zero tuition) with German Professors, they did not get where they got being in "Jewish school excelling in wisdom of "Talmud Tanakh") .. re marrying a non Iranian man, Iranian man and woman marry many westerners, many Germans and French and Swiss and and, no problemo whether Christian or Atheist or whatever (that is the Iranian way, no prejudice and tolerance), we marry all ethnics and love it
In two to three generations, Iran will be China-II, and than go figure, highly unlikely present Israel would still be around
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And then, on one hand you say that Iran is not agains Israel, and on the other hand, you keep talking about Israel's end in a few generations in your posts. And you even mixed the Jews with the Iranian mathematician who got the Fields Medal at the beginning of the thread. And you said that "although Jews got Nobel prizes in the past this will change in the future when Middle East and China upgrade their universities further. " As if it makes any difference to the Jews. You characteristically see everything through the lens of your jealousy as if the world is a zero-sum game. I pity you. You are wasting all your life thinking about what others have always in comparison with yourself.
As usual, because of your racism, you also insinuate that the Israeli mathematician Lindenstrauss who got the Fields Medal in 2010 does not count as a Middle Eastern even though he was born in Israel, because he is of Ashkenazic ancestry. In any case, as a Middle Eastern, he also received the same prize in 2010. The Fields Medal is given every 4 years, although it is given to several people every 4 years.
And I was not the one bragging about Jewish Fields medalists or Nobel laureates.
HAL 10000 wrote:Again, with your characteristic dishonesty and bigotry, you are diverting attention from what I said about Iran and all countries that have religious Muslim governments: they do NOT give equality to non-Muslims, and they do NOT allow significant non-Muslim immigration.Heracleum Persicum wrote: Re Professor Maryam Mirzakhani and non-christian immigration and full scholarship and other rubbish, this has nothing to do with immigration or scholarship or Christianity .. this has to do with quality of Iranian universities, high quality of Iranian education and literacy, level of woman emancipation in Iran and coming Nobel prices that Middle Eastern and Chinese will win and high level science in Middle east and and (where did Einstein and Teller and Pauli study ? ? in German universities (zero tuition) with German Professors, they did not get where they got being in "Jewish school excelling in wisdom of "Talmud Tanakh") .. re marrying a non Iranian man, Iranian man and woman marry many westerners, many Germans and French and Swiss and and, no problemo whether Christian or Atheist or whatever (that is the Iranian way, no prejudice and tolerance), we marry all ethnics and love it
In two to three generations, Iran will be China-II, and than go figure, highly unlikely present Israel would still be around
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HAL 10000 wrote:.
You are diverging attention from what I said about scholarship: I ONLY said that the US institutions GAVE the scholarship to a Muslim Iranian and accepted her as an immigrant as an equal to all Americans, even though she is from a country that is in a state of low intensity war with the US. I did NOT say the Iranians themselves discriminate against foreigners inside the US or Europe, but once inside Iran, the government would never accept Christian immigrants.
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HAL 10000 wrote:.
And then, on one hand you say that Iran is not against Israel, and on the other hand, you keep talking about Israel's end in a few generations in your posts.
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And you even mixed the Jews with the Iranian mathematician who got the Fields Medal at the beginning of the thread. And you said that "although Jews got Nobel prizes in the past this will change in the future when Middle East and China upgrade their universities further. " As if it makes any difference to the Jews. You characteristically see everything through the lens of your jealousy as if the world is a zero-sum game. I pity you. You are wasting all your life thinking about what others have always in comparison with yourself.
Ashkenazim, BY DEFINITION, are not Middle Eastern people, they themselves say so .. in that sense, Herr Lindenstrauss no Middle Eastern, his name indicate he must be "ethnic" German .. Stanley Fischer, Israel central bank chief & Federal Reserve Board of Governors, born in Mazabuka, Northern Rhodesia (now Zambia), he an African ?HAL 10000 wrote:.
As usual, because of your racism, you also insinuate that the Israeli mathematician Lindenstrauss who got the Fields Medal in 2010 does not count as a Middle Eastern even though he was born in Israel, because he is of Ashkenazic ancestry. In any case, as a Middle Eastern, he also received the same prize in 2010. The Fields Medal is given every 4 years, although it is given to several people every 4 years.
And I was not the one bragging about Jewish Fields medalists or Nobel laureates.