If you think it applies equally to Bell or Edison, then you don't understand the technology sufficiently to have this conversation.AzariLoveIran wrote:Enki wrote:.
Steve Jobs isn't 'good cholesterol'. I doubt there is any single man in history who has done more to erode personal liberty than Steve Jobs.
He is the one who inculturated millions of people to simply accept that your cell phone is a listening device for the government or any of the service providers who you use to listen in on you and made its internal works proprietary so that you cannot legally change that.
genuflect Steve Jobs, he was the biggest tyrant of them all.
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In retrospect you might have a valid case
though
same argument could be made against Telephone Inventor Alexander Graham Bell or even Thomas Edison
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having or not having a smart phone your own choice
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look EnkiEnki wrote:.If you think it applies equally to Bell or Edison, then you don't understand the technology sufficiently to have this conversation.AzariLoveIran wrote:.Enki wrote:.
Steve Jobs isn't 'good cholesterol'. I doubt there is any single man in history who has done more to erode personal liberty than Steve Jobs.
He is the one who inculturated millions of people to simply accept that your cell phone is a listening device for the government or any of the service providers who you use to listen in on you and made its internal works proprietary so that you cannot legally change that.
genuflect Steve Jobs, he was the biggest tyrant of them all.
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In retrospect you might have a valid case
though
same argument could be made against Telephone Inventor Alexander Graham Bell or even Thomas Edison
and
having or not having a smart phone your own choice
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nothing wrong with any technology
how society and people and government apply those tech stuff is the issue
Can not say Steve Jobs should not have come with smartphone because some functions & apps would lead to all those things that you quite rightly say is evil
tech can be used for good or evil app
as said, telephone too has lots of evil applications
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Do some homework, read up on Apple's business model and get back to me.
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Sorry, thought you not happy with technology re Steve & AppleEnki wrote:.
Do some homework, read up on Apple's business model and get back to me.
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butEnki wrote:.
. . you don't understand the technology sufficiently to have this conversation.
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seems you not happy with "Apple's business model"
well
Have no deep knowledge of Apple's business model, but as little as I know, the guy built something and wants to keep it close to his chest .. what's wrong with it ? ?
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Apple likes to limit the user experience and how much you can modify their technology for your own use. They also have implemented a few spyware 'features' that allow them, and thus the government to spy on your activity. Steve Jobs made this 'normal' by making it into intentional features. So now the government can use Apple products to spy on anyone.
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Enki wrote:.
Apple likes to limit the user experience and how much you can modify their technology for your own use. They also have implemented a few spyware 'features' that allow them, and thus the government to spy on your activity. Steve Jobs made this 'normal' by making it into intentional features. So now the government can use Apple products to spy on anyone.
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they all do this
Google has a file on each of us with EVERYTHING .. and .. Android sends to Google pretty much all about you .. all our address-book and files already on their servers .. WIKI a CIA and FBI and and baby
Told you, these things are interfaced with FBI, Homeland Security, CIA and and and
Best to communicate with "Pigeons"
Wanting "Privacy" is like living without electricity .. no such thing
Art not they should not know what's going on in your head .. art is they know but can't do a thing, that is when the biggest impact will be
modify for your own use ?
if you want that, don't buy apple
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They all do it since Apple kicked in the door for it. You are very unaware of the history of things because you like every single person irrationally in love with Steve Jobs doesn't want to accept what he has done.
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Tinker, I am intimately close to High-Tech and Silicon Valley since 1983 .. had my share of it and still lookin and playing the gameEnki wrote:.
They all do it since Apple kicked in the door for it. You are very unaware of the history of things because you like every single person irrationally in love with Steve Jobs doesn't want to accept what he has done ..
Technology opens doors that nobody knows where they lead .. matter of fact, in technology, when things invented or introduced things totally unpredictable, that is the beauty of it
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Who is this Judge Napolitano ? ?
why is he in Fox ?
I startin liking him
a good American, part of beautiful America
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Who is this Judge Napolitano ? ?
why is he in Fox ?
I startin liking him
a good American, part of beautiful America
Must watch
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fOaCemmsnNk
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Lots of people understand where they lead.AzariLoveIran wrote:Tinker, I am intimately close to High-Tech and Silicon Valley since 1983 .. had my share of it and still lookin and playing the gameEnki wrote:.
They all do it since Apple kicked in the door for it. You are very unaware of the history of things because you like every single person irrationally in love with Steve Jobs doesn't want to accept what he has done ..
Technology opens doors that nobody knows where they lead .. matter of fact, in technology, when things invented or introduced things totally unpredictable, that is the beauty of it
.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
-Alexander Hamilton
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Enki wrote:.Lots of people understand where they lead.AzariLoveIran wrote:.Tinker, I am intimately close to High-Tech and Silicon Valley since 1983 .. had my share of it and still lookin and playing the gameEnki wrote:.
They all do it since Apple kicked in the door for it. You are very unaware of the history of things because you like every single person irrationally in love with Steve Jobs doesn't want to accept what he has done ..
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Technology opens doors that nobody knows where they lead .. matter of fact, in technology, when things invented or introduced things totally unpredictable, that is the beauty of it
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People who understand where things, down the road, might lead, are the ones who run to the bank .. others, who always chase the buck, they get nowhere
Money is not in knowing what's now .. money is having vision what will be in yr or two
Visionary
and that is who Steve Jobs was
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