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Former First Nation chief to ask Iran for help

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Nelson decided to lead a caravan of cars to the Iranian embassy in Ottawa in about two weeks.

He plans to thank Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his condemnation of Canada’s treatment of aboriginal people, and ask him for help in bringing attention to the issue of missing and murdered women.
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Some similarity with Gaza people

Canada should be ashamed how they treat the people Canada belongs to

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Former First Nation chief to ask Iran for help

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Nelson decided to lead a caravan of cars to the Iranian embassy in Ottawa in about two weeks.

He plans to thank Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for his condemnation of Canada’s treatment of aboriginal people, and ask him for help in bringing attention to the issue of missing and murdered women.
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Some similarity with Gaza people

Canada should be ashamed how they treat the people Canada belongs to

Harper, you livin in glass house, don't throw rocks

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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

IMVHO Canada & the Brits have often treated the First Nations/Native Americans better than we/US/uz have done.
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Asking Iran for advice on how to stuff ballot boxes and rig elections would have been more useful before he lost the election. Its a little late now.

The trip however need not be a complete waste. While he is at the embassy he can add his voice to the many that condemn Iran for the way they treat Kurds and religious minorities, especially the Bahá'í and Christian groups.
That death sentence for apostasy for that Christian pastor doing Iran no good...........

Even worse than the trouble we/US/Uz have with the Euros about the death penalty for more understandable crimes like murder................

FWIW Crazy Joe Vogler in Alaska tried a similar stunt ....... Asking Iran for help against US/Uz...... Hated US so much that he insisted on burial in Canada :wink:

Pomegranates like you, Azari, probably like US better than Joe did........
"I'm an Alaskan, not an American. I've got no use for America or her damned institutions."[5][6]

Vogler is recorded as saying "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government. And I won't be buried under their damn flag. I'll be buried in Dawson. And when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home

Joe also hated Aspen trees & FDR ...........

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U.S. Top Destination for Christian, Buddhist Immigrants

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Christian migration is largely driven by migration from Latin America to the U.S. Of the 43 million foreign-born people living in the U.S., nearly three quarters are Christian.
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Despite the concerns of some in Europe over a rise in Muslim immigration, the study says that Christian immigrants outnumber Muslim immigrants in the 27 countries of the European Union. Around 26 million Christian immigrants make up 56% of the immigrant population of the EU nations; Muslim immigrants make up 27%, with 13 million foreign-born Muslims living in the EU. When migration from one EU country to another is excluded, the percentages are closer, but Christian immigrants still outnumber Muslim immigrants 13 million to 12 million, the study says.

Muslims are the second-largest group of international migrants, making up 60 million, or 27%, of the world's migrants. Many of them have migrated from India, Pakistan, Indonesia and the Philippines to Saudi Arabia. The Palestinian territories are the largest single source of Muslim migrants, with 5.7 million Palestinians exiting the region for other countries.

The massive migration of foreign-born workers to Persian Gulf countries has also injected some religious diversity into overwhelmingly Muslim countries, according to the report. There are more than 2 million Christian immigrants in six Gulf countries, as well as 1.4 million Hindu immigrants and half a million Buddhist immigrants.
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AFP | Canada ups retirement age in bid to balance budget
Canada's center-right government called for the retirement age to be raised and for major public service cuts Thursday, in an austerity budget that aims to balance the books by 2016.

Tackling unpopular measures that many industrialized countries are being forced to consider as their populations age, the Canadian government said its budget would help the country move a step ahead.

"Other Western countries face the risk of long-term economic decline. We have a rare opportunity to position our country for sustainable, long-term growth," Finance Minister Jim Flaherty said in the House of Commons.

"Looking ahead, Canadians have every reason to be confident," he said presenting what was dubbed a budget for "the next generation."

Under the plan, Canada will cut its deficit this year through "moderate" spending cuts, as the economy grows by 2.1 percent, Flaherty announced.

But much deeper cuts, including the laying off of 19,200 government staff, or 4.8 percent of the federal workforce, are planned for the coming years.
Flaherty said old age security and guaranteed income supplement benefits worth up to a total of Can$15,000 and now paid out at age 65 would be offered only at age 67, starting in 2023.

He also announced the withdrawal of the Canadian penny from circulation later this year, saying it costs more to produce than its face value. The move will save the government Can$11 million annually.
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Americans 60 and older still owe about $36 billion in student loans.

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. . it is not uncommon for Social Security checks to be garnished or for debt collectors to harass borrowers in their 80s over student loans that are decades old.
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Bernd Horn, "We Will Find a Way"

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Colonel Bernd Horn’s monograph on the legacy of Canadian Special Operations Forces (SOF) highlights the colorful history and heritage of SOF from a vital partner nation. Horn reaches back to the 17th and 18th centuries with the Canadian Ranger tradition. He recounts Canada’s entry into World War II and its SOF experience with the British-led Special Operations Executive. He highlights a combined U.S./Canadian unit, the First Special Service Force, which trained together in Montana and fought alongside each other earning the moniker “Black Devils” by the Germans. Colonel Horn then continues to present day. He provides a brief but exciting recap of Canadian SOF history that not only enriches our understanding of SOF from a key ally, but also highlights the historic bonds and military experiences that our two great nations share.
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25 cents a gallon

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.. most politicians act as if sanctions affect only the country targeted – something these experts say isn’t true.

“The approach is always that the costs are for them and the benefits are for us,” ..
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sanctions the US and other countries have slapped on Iran’s energy sector and on its central bank (aimed at curtailing its oil exports) are costing Iran about 300,000 barrels a day in exports, Mr. Pugliaresi estimates. When added to other factors affecting the international oil market, that decrease in exports may have added about $10 to the current price of a barrel for crude, he says.

And that $10 increase translates roughly to about a 25-cent increase in the cost of a gallon of gas in the US, Pugliaresi says.
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Britain learned that empires cost too much. Now it’s America’s turn.

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Echoes of the End of the Raj


THE Arab Spring, the threat of Iran as an emerging nuclear power, the continuing violence in Syria and the American reluctance to get involved there have all signaled the weakness, if not the end, of America’s role as a world policeman.

America’s position today reminds me of Britain’s situation in 1945. Deep in debt and committed to building its National Health Service and other accouterments of the welfare state, Britain no longer could afford to run an empire.

Moreover, Britain, which so proudly ruled the waves a generation ago, was tired; it lacked the willpower to pursue its imperial destiny. America’s role as an imperialist is even more fragile, as it never had Britain’s self-confident faith in its own imperial destiny. Americans have always been ambivalent about the role of global hegemon.

Today, American retreat is not motivated by traditional isolationism, but by practical necessity. Like post-World War II Britain, contemporary America no longer has the financial resources to maintain an empire — one which, in America’s case, was pursued only halfheartedly in the first place. Deficits and debt have been more damaging to dreams of empire than any genuine shift in ideology.

much @ the link

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Look guys

British empire won and kept together by force .. by terrorizing .. kept AND ruled by sword

not so the Persian empire

Persian empire was gathered together, kept AND ruled, by justice

So,

America,

why not rule by justice ? ? ? in headlock ? ? ? :lol:

and

Rhubarb

B4 too late

you better shake hand with Ahmadinejat :lol:

it ain't getting any cheaper :)


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AzariLoveIran wrote:.


Britain learned that empires cost too much. Now it’s America’s turn.

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Echoes of the End of the Raj


THE Arab Spring, the threat of Iran as an emerging nuclear power, the continuing violence in Syria and the American reluctance to get involved there have all signaled the weakness, if not the end, of America’s role as a world policeman.

America’s position today reminds me of Britain’s situation in 1945. Deep in debt and committed to building its National Health Service and other accouterments of the welfare state, Britain no longer could afford to run an empire.

Moreover, Britain, which so proudly ruled the waves a generation ago, was tired; it lacked the willpower to pursue its imperial destiny. America’s role as an imperialist is even more fragile, as it never had Britain’s self-confident faith in its own imperial destiny. Americans have always been ambivalent about the role of global hegemon.

Today, American retreat is not motivated by traditional isolationism, but by practical necessity. Like post-World War II Britain, contemporary America no longer has the financial resources to maintain an empire — one which, in America’s case, was pursued only halfheartedly in the first place. Deficits and debt have been more damaging to dreams of empire than any genuine shift in ideology.

much @ the link

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Look guys

British empire won and kept together by force .. by terrorizing .. kept AND ruled by sword

not so the Persian empire

Persian empire was gathered together, kept AND ruled, by justice

So,

America,

why not rule by justice ? ? ? in headlock ? ? ? :lol:

and

Rhubarb

B4 too late

you better shake hand with Ahmadinejat :lol:

it ain't getting any cheaper :)


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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.


FWIW INVHO let Iran prove that post invasion of the SunDry Mobots from Arabia that it is still Persia by civilizing the 2 legged Afghan hound false dogs of the Tallywacking Taiban in Afgahnistan..........

Better do it before it is too late...

Ibrahim's post about NATO soliciting funds from China and Russia :shock: :o :shock: for Afghanistan control efforts makes me wonder if the we Uz are about to quit claim those Afghan S.O.B.s to the Chinese........ Don't think the Bears still have a hankering for dog meat :twisted: ..........

And quite frankly I hope the Chinese do make Valley Girl talking Han :wink: Maids of those Benefactor Betraying Battle Bots...... as they exploit Afghan copper and other resources........

Like it would be like so cool like........ :lol:

Even elderly Chinese farmers aren't so bad compared to the native alternatives..... Nork Girls know that :shock: ...... Suspect daughters of Tallywackers might agree if they have a chance to find out.............. ;)

Remember like Mars.......CHINA NEEDS WOMEN!!!.............

Maybe Iran can make Beautiful Persian Peacocks out of the Tallywacker dogs........

Ought not to be too hard to do better than we clumsy Uz have........... :( :lol:

You being at least officially fellow Muslims :lol:

Maybe then try to prove to the Israelis that you can keep the Palis Mobots from pushing them into the sea.........

Otherwise* IMVHO the Israelis ought to pursue a nuclear option....... My plan being mini nukes lifting Orion rockets to colonize the Moon and beyond.....

Yeah....... I know you say that you have to get street cred with the Arab street

By harassing the Iz
In the name of fairness & Justiciz
So called

Maybe you have dreams of mass conversions away from Sunnism.......

I say that those Sunni dogz and MUTTawen wannabes hate the Shite ;) in Persian guts........


*Actually even if you do tame them feral Afghan hounds............ We need to be there to stop the next big space rock.........
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http://www.news.com.au/world/woman-sues ... 6233218273
A US appeals court has ruled a woman can sue a dead man whose body parts struck her after he was hit by a speeding train.
Hiroyuki Joho, 18, was killed while rushing through the rain with an umbrella to catch a commuter train in Edgebrook near Chicago in September 2008.
He was struck and killed by the speeding Amtrak train and his body severed on impact, reports the Chicago Tribune.
A large part of his body was hurled onto the southbound platform of the station where it struck Gayane Zokhrabov, 58, who was on her way to work.
The impact caused her to fall, breaking her wrist and leg and injuring her shoulder.
Zokhrabov tried to sue Joho's estate, but the lawsuit was thrown out of a Cook County court by a judge who ruled the young man could not be responsible for the woman's injuries.
This week a state court overturned the ruling. The woman's lawyer said the gruesome details of the case did not prevent the young man from being negligent.
"If you do something as stupid as this guy did, you have to be responsible for what comes from it," said Leslie Rosen, Zokhrabov's lawyer.
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I found a number of charts relating to American economic indicators, which some of you may find interesting.

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Endo, thanks! Can you share the source?
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US trade unbalance has been chronic for the last 30 years, massive for the last 15 years.

That situation was enabled by the "exorbitant privilege", which only America possesses, of always paying a significant part of one's imports through cost-less printing of the global reserve currency. Can it always last? If it can't, how will it be balanced?

At stakes, is nothing less than the reserve status of the US currency

Is peak exorbitant privilege already past?

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thanks for that alexis, some of the most eloquently explained doom n gloom ive seen in while.
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Wealthy Americans Queue to Give Up Their Passports

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Absurd Tax Laws

“Most of the real cross-border tax troubles have been around Switzerland,” Naville said. “We’ve got absurd tax laws coming into force because of the activities of certain people who tried to hide money.”

During a 10-minute renunciation ceremony in a booth with bullet-proof glass windows, embassy staff ask exiting Americans whether they are acting voluntarily and understand the implications of giving up their passports. They pay a fee of $450 to renounce and may incur an “exit tax” on unrealized capital gains if their assets exceed $2 million or their average annual U.S. tax bill is more than $151,000 during the past five years.

They receive a certificate within three months, telling them they are no longer American citizens and entitled to the services and protection of the U.S. government.

Imperial Overreach

The 2010 Fatca law requires banks to withhold 30 percent from “certain U.S.-connected payments” to some accounts of American clients who don’t disclose enough information to the IRS.

“There is incredible frustration at the audacity and imperial overreach of this law,” said David Kuenzi, a tax adviser at Thun Financial Advisors in Madison, Wisconsin, referring to Fatca.

Failure to file the 8938 form can result in a fine of as much as $50,000. Clients can also be penalized half the amount in an undeclared foreign bank account under the Banks Secrecy Act of 1970.

“It’s a big brother concept,” said Brent Lipschultz, a partner at New York-based accounting firm EisnerAmper.

The implementation of Fatca from next year comes after UBS, Switzerland’s largest bank, paid a $780 million penalty in 2009 and handed over data on about 4,700 accounts to settle a tax- evasion dispute with the U.S. Whistle-blower Birkenfeld was sentenced to 40 months in a U.S. prison in 2009 after informing the government and Senate about his American clients at the Geneva branch of Zurich-based UBS.

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Have said many times .. people who created jobs .. certain type of rich .. should be tax exempted :)


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Renouncing America for Money...

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AzariLoveIran wrote:.


Wealthy Americans Queue to Give Up Their Passports

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Absurd Tax Laws

“Most of the real cross-border tax troubles have been around Switzerland,” Naville said. “We’ve got absurd tax laws coming into force because of the activities of certain people who tried to hide money.”

During a 10-minute renunciation ceremony in a booth with bullet-proof glass windows, embassy staff ask exiting Americans whether they are acting voluntarily and understand the implications of giving up their passports. They pay a fee of $450 to renounce and may incur an “exit tax” on unrealized capital gains if their assets exceed $2 million or their average annual U.S. tax bill is more than $151,000 during the past five years.

They receive a certificate within three months, telling them they are no longer American citizens and entitled to the services and protection of the U.S. government.

Imperial Overreach

The 2010 Fatca law requires banks to withhold 30 percent from “certain U.S.-connected payments” to some accounts of American clients who don’t disclose enough information to the IRS.

“There is incredible frustration at the audacity and imperial overreach of this law,” said David Kuenzi, a tax adviser at Thun Financial Advisors in Madison, Wisconsin, referring to Fatca.

Failure to file the 8938 form can result in a fine of as much as $50,000. Clients can also be penalized half the amount in an undeclared foreign bank account under the Banks Secrecy Act of 1970.

“It’s a big brother concept,” said Brent Lipschultz, a partner at New York-based accounting firm EisnerAmper.

The implementation of Fatca from next year comes after UBS, Switzerland’s largest bank, paid a $780 million penalty in 2009 and handed over data on about 4,700 accounts to settle a tax- evasion dispute with the U.S. Whistle-blower Birkenfeld was sentenced to 40 months in a U.S. prison in 2009 after informing the government and Senate about his American clients at the Geneva branch of Zurich-based UBS.

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Have said many times .. people who created jobs .. certain type of rich .. should be tax exempted :)


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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

Interesting article and the comments were as interesting or more....

I'm an UhMerikun/American :wink: ........... Was raised :wink: to be a patriot......

I could see leaving US/Uz if the Domionionists or similar gained power...... if I could........ :evil:

Or to live near friends and family during my senesence........ :)

Also for reasons of fallout....... :(

But renouncing for money????...........

Granted that I am small fry and doubt that this will be much of a problem for me.........

Could be wrong........ Sounds like the paperwork might be a hassle.......

But renouncing for money????...........

Have friends and relatives overseas who can't get even a tourist visa to come here to visit....

Not 100% sure but part of me says that the commenters who suggested that those who renounce for money, never be allowed to return are correct........
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Wouldn't it be "funny" if the US were to decide to make it difficult for these people ever again to visit the USA. Like denying them visas. Putting them on a list of "don't admit." I rather like that idea. You leave and you can never go home again. Even to attend to your property in the US.
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Put these people on the "No Fly" list....

Going to think about it some more............ Know it may not be that simple............

But am tempted to call the President & my Congress people to suggest this......

Renounce for money & you are NEVER coming back... Not as tourist... Not for Business... Not for a funeral... Not even for medical treatment...

Not even flying through.....

Inviting comment from any and all about this.........

May be getting too emotional about this...

But that is my gut feeling.......


Vaguely remembering a post at Diagetics or Spengler about the Davos People....... not really Americans anymore to begin with ..........
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Aferim wrote:Endo, thanks! Can you share the source?
I would, except that it came with an e-mail from a source I'm subscribed to. I can't forward it. But the primary sources are indicated on the charts themselves.
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Endovelico wrote:
Aferim wrote:Endo, thanks! Can you share the source?
I would, except that it came with an e-mail from a source I'm subscribed to. I can't forward it. But the primary sources are indicated on the charts themselves.
Endo,

Bases on the format it looks like A. Gary Shilling's newsletter. Is it? Sending out the info en masse might not be appreciated, but most authors appreciate a free plug.

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Simple Minded wrote:.

Living beyond one's means..... never lasts....

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It last as long as others pay the bills

not voluntary

but

if

you have

big enough a gun

it helps

so far

it worked

but

everything good

has an ending

though

might be ending

on a sour note



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Simple Minded wrote:Bases on the format it looks like A. Gary Shilling's newsletter. Is it? Sending out the info en masse might not be appreciated, but most authors appreciate a free plug.

Living beyond one's means..... never lasts....
You are correct about it being from a Gary Shilling newsletter, which I received second hand from John Mauldin.
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What you need to succeed is sincerity, and if you can fake sincerity you've got it made.
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"A few months ago I told the American people that I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that is true, but the facts and evidence tell me it is not."
— President Ronald Reagan, 1987


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Media with Conscience

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On April 23, speaking at the Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, DC, President Barack Obama told his assembled audience that as president "I've done my utmost ... to prevent and end atrocities".

Do the facts and evidence tell him that his words are not true?

Well, let's see ... There's the multiple atrocities carried out in Iraq by American forces under President Obama. There's the multiple atrocities carried out in Afghanistan by American forces under Obama. There's the multiple atrocities carried out in Pakistan by American forces under Obama. There's the multiple atrocities carried out in Libya by American/NATO forces under Obama. There are also the hundreds of American drone attacks against people and homes in Somalia and in Yemen (including against American citizens in the latter). Might the friends and families of these victims regard the murder of their loved ones and the loss of their homes as atrocities?

Ronald Reagan was pre-Alzheimer's when he uttered the above. What excuse can be made for Barack Obama ?


The president then continued in the same fashion by saying: "We possess many tools ... and using these tools over the past three years, I believe — I know — that we have saved countless lives." Obama pointed out that this includes Libya, where the United States, in conjunction with NATO, took part in seven months of almost daily bombing missions. We may never learn from the new pro-NATO Libyan government how many the bombs killed, or the extent of the damage to homes and infrastructure. But the President of the United States assured his Holocaust Museum audience that "today, the Libyan people are forging their own future, and the world can take pride in the innocent lives that we saved." (As I described in last month's report, Libya could now qualify as a failed state.)

Language is an invention that makes it possible for a person to deny what he is doing even as he does it.

Mr. Obama closed with these stirring words; "It can be tempting to throw up our hands and resign ourselves to man's endless capacity for cruelty. It's tempting sometimes to believe that there is nothing we can do." But Barack Obama is not one of those doubters. He knows there is something he can do about man's endless capacity for cruelty. He can add to it. Greatly. And yet, I am certain that, with exceedingly few exceptions, those in his Holocaust audience left with no doubt that this was a man wholly deserving of his Nobel Peace Prize.

And future American history books may well certify the president's words as factual, his motivation sincere, for his talk indeed possessed the quality needed for schoolbooks.

The Israeli-American-Iranian-Holocaust-NobelPeacePrize Circus

It's a textbook case of how the American media is at its worst when it comes to US foreign policy and particularly when an Officially Designated Enemy (ODE) is involved. I've discussed this case several times in this report in recent years. The ODE is Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. The accusation has been that he had threatened violence against Israel, based on his 2005 remark calling for "wiping Israel off the map". Who can count the number of times this has been repeated in every kind of media, in every country of the world, without questioning the accuracy of what was reported? A Lexis-Nexis search of "All News (English)" for <Iran and Israel and "off the map"> for the past seven years produced the message: "This search has been interrupted because it will return more than 3000 results."

As I've pointed out, Ahmadinejad's "threat of violence" was a serious misinterpretation, one piece of evidence being that the following year he declared: "The Zionist regime will be wiped out soon, the same way the Soviet Union was, and humanity will achieve freedom." 2 Obviously, he was not calling for any kind of violent attack upon Israel, for the dissolution of the Soviet Union took place remarkably peacefully. But the myth of course continued.

Now, finally, we have the following exchange from the radio-TV simulcast, Democracy Now!, of April 19:

A top Israeli official has acknowledged that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad never said that Iran seeks to "wipe Israel off the face of the map." The falsely translated statement has been widely attributed to Ahmadinejad and used repeatedly by U.S. and Israeli government officials to back military action and sanctions against Iran. But speaking to Teymoor Nabili of the network Al Jazeera, Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor admitted Ahmadinejad had been misquoted.

Teymoor Nabili: "As we know, Ahmadinejad didn't say that he plans to exterminate Israel, nor did he say that Iran policy is to exterminate Israel. Ahmadinejad's position and Iran's position always has been, and they've made this — they've said this as many times as Ahmadinejad has criticized Israel, he has said as many times that he has no plans to attack Israel. ..."

Dan Meridor: "Well, I have to disagree, with all due respect. You speak of Ahmadinejad. I speak of Khamenei, Ahmadinejad, Rafsanjani, Shamkhani. I give the names of all these people. They all come, basically ideologically, religiously, with the statement that Israel is an unnatural creature, it will not survive. They didn't say, 'We'll wipe it out,' you're right. But 'It will not survive, it is a cancerous tumor that should be removed,' was said just two weeks ago again."

Teymoor Nabili: "Well, I'm glad you've acknowledged that they didn't say they will wipe it out."

So that's that. Right? Of course not. Fox News, NPR, CNN, NBC, et al. will likely continue to claim that Ahmadinejad threatened violence against Israel, threatened to "wipe it off the map".

And that's only Ahmadinejad the Israeli Killer. There's still Ahmadinejad the Holocaust Denier. So until a high Israeli official finally admits that that too is a lie, keep in mind that Ahmadinejad has never said simply, clearly, unambiguously, and unequivocally that he thinks that what we historically know as the Holocaust never happened. He has instead commented about the peculiarity and injustice of a Holocaust which took place in Europe resulting in a state for the Jews in the Middle East instead of in Europe. Why are the Palestinians paying a price for a German crime? he asks. And he has questioned the figure of six million Jews killed by Nazi Germany, as have many other people of various political stripes. In a speech at Columbia University on September 24, 2007, in reply to a question about the Holocaust, the Iranian president declared: "I'm not saying that it didn't happen at all. This is not the judgment that I'm passing here." 3

Let us now listen to Elie Wiesel, the simplistic, reactionary man who's built a career around being a Holocaust survivor, introducing President Obama at the Holocaust Museum for the talk referred to above, some five days after the statement made by the Israeli Deputy Prime Minister:

"How is it that the Holocaust's No. 1 denier, Ahmadinejad, is still a president? He who threatens to use nuclear weapons — to use nuclear weapons — to destroy the Jewish state. Have we not learned? We must. We must know that when evil has power, it is almost too late."

"Nuclear weapons" is of course adding a new myth on the back of the old myth.

Wiesel, like Obama, is a winner of the Nobel Peace Prize. As is Henry Kissinger and Menachim Begin. And several other such war-loving beauties. When will that monumental farce of a prize be put to sleep?

For the record, let it be noted that on March 4, speaking before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC), Obama said: "Let's begin with a basic truth that you all understand: No Israeli government can tolerate a nuclear weapon in the hands of a regime that denies the Holocaust, threatens to wipe Israel off the map, and sponsors terrorist groups committed to Israel's destruction." 4

Postscript: Each time I strongly criticize Barack Obama a few of my readers ask to unsubscribe. I'm really sorry to lose them but it's important that those on the left rid themselves of their attachment to the Democratic Party. I'm not certain how best to institute revolutionary change in the United States, but I do know that it will not happen through the Democratic Party, and the sooner those on the left cut their umbilical cord to the Democrats, the sooner we can start to get more serious about this thing called revolution.

Written on Earth Day, Sunday, April 22, 2012

Two simple suggestions as part of a plan to save the planet.

1. Population control: limit families to two children

All else being equal, a markedly reduced population count would have a markedly beneficial effect upon global warming, air pollution, and food and water availability; as well as finding a parking spot, getting a seat on the subway, getting on the flight you prefer, and much, much more. Some favor limiting families to one child. Still others, who spend a major part of each day digesting the awful news of the world, are calling for a limit of zero. (The Chinese government announced in 2008 that the country would have about 400 million more people if it wasn't for its limit of one or two children per couple. 5

But, within the environmental movement, there is still significant opposition to this. Part of the reason is fear of ethnic criticism inasmuch as population programs have traditionally been aimed at — or seen to be aimed at — primarily the poor, the weak, and various "outsiders". There is also the fear of the religious right and its medieval views on birth control.

2. Eliminate the greatest consumer of energy in the world: The United States military.

Here's Michael Klare, professor of Peace and World Security Studies at Hampshire College, Mass. in 2007:

Sixteen gallons of oil. That's how much the average American soldier in Iraq and Afghanistan consumes on a daily basis — either directly, through the use of Humvees, tanks, trucks, and helicopters, or indirectly, by calling in air strikes. Multiply this figure by 162,000 soldiers in Iraq, 24,000 in Afghanistan, and 30,000 in the surrounding region (including sailors aboard U.S. warships in the Persian Gulf) and you arrive at approximately 3.5 million gallons of oil: the daily petroleum tab for U.S. combat operations in the Middle East war zone. Multiply that daily tab by 365 and you get 1.3 billion gallons: the estimated annual oil expenditure for U.S. combat operations in Southwest Asia. That's greater than the total annual oil usage of Bangladesh, population 150 million — and yet it's a gross underestimate of the Pentagon's wartime consumption. 6

The United States military, for decades, with its legion of bases and its numerous wars has also produced and left behind a deadly toxic legacy. From the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam in the 1960s to the open-air burn pits on US bases in Iraq and Afghanistan in the 21st century, countless local people have been sickened and killed; and in between those two periods we could read things such as this from a lengthy article on the subject in the Los Angeles Times in 1990:

U.S. military installations have polluted the drinking water of the Pacific island of Guam, poured tons of toxic chemicals into Subic Bay in the Philippines, leaked carcinogens into the water source of a German spa, spewed tons of sulfurous coal smoke into the skies of Central Europe and pumped millions of gallons of raw sewage into the oceans. 7

The military has caused similar harm to the environment in the United States at a number of its installations. (Do a Google search for <"U.S. military bases" toxic>)

When I suggest eliminating the military I am usually rebuked for leaving "a defenseless America open to foreign military invasion". And I usually reply:

"Tell me who would invade us? Which country?"

"What do you mean which country? It could be any country."

"So then it should be easy to name one."

"Okay, any of the 200 members of the United Nations!"

"No, I'd like you to name a specific country that you think would invade the United States. Name just one."

"Okay, Paraguay. You happy now?"

"No, you have to tell me why Paraguay would invade the United States."

"How would I know?"

Etc., etc., and if this charming dialogue continues, I ask the person to tell me how many troops the invading country would have to have to occupy a country of more than 300 million people.

Yankee karma

The questions concerning immigration into the United States from south of the border go on year after year, with the same issues argued back and forth: What's the best way to block the flow into the country? How shall we punish those caught here illegally? Should we separate families, which happens when parents are deported but their American-born children remain? Should the police and various other institutions have the right to ask for proof of legal residence from anyone they suspect of being here illegally? Should we punish employers who hire illegal immigrants? Should we grant amnesty to at least some of the immigrants already here for years? ... on and on, round and round it goes, for decades. Every once in a while someone opposed to immigration will make it a point to declare that the United States does not have any moral obligation to take in these Latino immigrants.

But the counter-argument to the last is almost never mentioned: Yes, the United States does have a moral obligation because so many of the immigrants are escaping situations in their homelands made hopeless by American interventions and policy. In Guatemala and Nicaragua Washington overthrew progressive governments which were sincerely committed to fighting poverty. In El Salvador the US played a major role in suppressing a movement striving to install such a government, and to a lesser extent played such a role in Honduras. And in Mexico, although Washington has not intervened militarily in Mexico since 1919, over the years the US has been providing training, arms, and surveillance technology to Mexico's police and armed forces to better their ability to suppress their own people's aspirations, as in Chiapas, and this has added to the influx of the impoverished to the United States. Moreover, Washington's North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), has brought a flood of cheap, subsidized US agricultural products into Mexico and driven many Mexican farmers off the land.

The end result of all these policies has been an army of migrants heading north in search of a better life. It's not that these people prefer to live in the United States. They'd much rather remain with their families and friends, be able to speak their native language at all times, and avoid the hardships imposed on them by American police and right-wingers.

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Facebook Co-Founder Renouncing US Citizenship for Money...

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AzariLoveIran wrote:.


Wealthy Americans Queue to Give Up Their Passports

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Absurd Tax Laws

“Most of the real cross-border tax troubles have been around Switzerland,” Naville said. “We’ve got absurd tax laws coming into force because of the activities of certain people who tried to hide money.”

During a 10-minute renunciation ceremony in a booth with bullet-proof glass windows, embassy staff ask exiting Americans whether they are acting voluntarily and understand the implications of giving up their passports. They pay a fee of $450 to renounce and may incur an “exit tax” on unrealized capital gains if their assets exceed $2 million or their average annual U.S. tax bill is more than $151,000 during the past five years.

They receive a certificate within three months, telling them they are no longer American citizens and entitled to the services and protection of the U.S. government.

Imperial Overreach

The 2010 Fatca law requires banks to withhold 30 percent from “certain U.S.-connected payments” to some accounts of American clients who don’t disclose enough information to the IRS.

“There is incredible frustration at the audacity and imperial overreach of this law,” said David Kuenzi, a tax adviser at Thun Financial Advisors in Madison, Wisconsin, referring to Fatca.

Failure to file the 8938 form can result in a fine of as much as $50,000. Clients can also be penalized half the amount in an undeclared foreign bank account under the Banks Secrecy Act of 1970.

“It’s a big brother concept,” said Brent Lipschultz, a partner at New York-based accounting firm EisnerAmper.

The implementation of Fatca from next year comes after UBS, Switzerland’s largest bank, paid a $780 million penalty in 2009 and handed over data on about 4,700 accounts to settle a tax- evasion dispute with the U.S. Whistle-blower Birkenfeld was sentenced to 40 months in a U.S. prison in 2009 after informing the government and Senate about his American clients at the Geneva branch of Zurich-based UBS.

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Have said many times .. people who created jobs .. certain type of rich .. should be tax exempted :)


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Thank you Very Much for your post, Azari.

Interesting article and the comments were as interesting or more....

I'm an UhMerikun/American :wink: ........... Was raised :wink: to be a patriot......

I could see leaving US/Uz if the Domionionists or similar gained power...... if I could........ :evil:

Or to live near friends and family during my senesence........ :)

Also for reasons of fallout....... :(

But renouncing for money????...........

Granted that I am small fry and doubt that this will be much of a problem for me.........

Could be wrong........ Sounds like the paperwork might be a hassle.......

But renouncing for money????...........

Have friends and relatives overseas who can't get even a tourist visa to come here to visit....

Not 100% sure but part of me says that the commenters who suggested that those who renounce for money, never be allowed to return are correct........
Chris Marquesas 56 minutes ago 3 comments collapsed Collapse Expand

Wouldn't it be "funny" if the US were to decide to make it difficult for these people ever again to visit the USA. Like denying them visas. Putting them on a list of "don't admit." I rather like that idea. You leave and you can never go home again. Even to attend to your property in the US.
Duvals_swing 1 hour ago 2 comments

Put these people on the "No Fly" list....

Going to think about it some more............ Know it may not be that simple............

But am tempted to call the President & my Congress people to suggest this......

Renounce for money & you are NEVER coming back... Not as tourist... Not for Business... Not for a funeral... Not even for medical treatment...

Not even flying through.....

Inviting comment from any and all about this.........

May be getting too emotional about this...

But that is my gut feeling.......


Vaguely remembering a post at Diagetics or Spengler about the Davos People....... not really Americans anymore to begin with ..........
Thank You Very Much for your Post, Monster Gardener. :) :) :D :lol: :lol:

In the news, a co-founder of Facebook is renouncing his U.S. Citizenship for tax advantages.........
Facebook co-founder Eduardo Saverin, who made billions off the world’s most popular social network, stands to rake in about $3.84 billion from his 4 percent share of Facebook, Bloomberg reported.

American citizens pay several taxes, including taxes on salary and investments. Saverin would be hit with about $600 million in capital gains taxes whenever he sold the Facebook shares (or "realized the income," in financial speak).

But Saverin may not have to pay -- he's chosen to renounce his U.S. citizenship for residence in Singapore, Bloomberg reported, where there is no capital gains tax.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/05/ ... z1ucR5Vvjp

Wonder if Cassowary at the Spengler Board knows him........

Probably makes sense for him financially.........

Still don't want to see him in UZ ever again...........

At least not until friends and family members overseas can get their tourist visas.........
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Re: North American Thread

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Monster ,

when one cancels citizenship, or even gives back the Green Card (permanent residency permit)

One must pay the taxes due til that date and moment .. after the formalities are done and citizenship is cancelled, after that date, any gains or income is no business of IRS

how is this done

when you give back citizenship or give back Green card .. IRS considers this, tax wise, exactly same as you have died

all taxes are due to that date, as you would have died at that date

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that Facebook guy, has to pay all taxes due .. to that date that his American citizenship is cancelled .. anything after that date, IRS nothing to do anymore

Some Iranians living in Canada for many yrs, were either American citizen or had Green Card .. some gave back US citizenship or GC, they had to go throw that experience

giving back American citizenship for tax reason, is utterly stupid if one is an entrepreneur

tax laws for entrepreneurs in America is the best in the world


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People leaving American citizenship under such circumstances typically pay an “exit tax,” which is a final bill based on all assets.

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Mr. Saverin’s loss of citizenship in September 2011 makes it likely that the process was initiated sometime around last May . .
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As Mr. Saverin’s holdings were primarily shares in a prepublic start-up company, the valuation of those assets was very likely the product of a significant negotiation. In a financing round in January 2011, Facebook was valued at about $50 billion, a little more than half what it is expected to be worth after next week’s initial public offering of stock.

Mr. Saverin, 30, co-founded Facebook while at Harvard with Mark Zuckerberg, Dustin Moskovitz and Chris Hughes, all of whom remain United States citizens. At one time Mr. Saverin owned about 34 percent of the company, but his shares were severely diluted during several financing rounds, leading to a lawsuit that was settled out of court with undisclosed terms. He now owns less than 5 percent of Facebook, but he is expected to be worth over $3.5 billion after the stock offering. He has reportedly sold over $250 million of Facebook stock ahead of the offering.

Among Mr. Saverin’s other investments are Anideo, a Singapore maker of a mobile video application; Jumio, an American company that processes payments based on image recognition; and Shopsavvy, an American maker of software used for comparison shopping.
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