Eastern Oklahoma Belongs to the Creek Nation

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

Had my eye on this for a year now:

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...and here we go.

[Typhoon]

Time for a remake - update?

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[noddy]

we have had land rights for indigenous Australians for a while now.

hasnt led to much change, its always sub-optimal scrub land, its never good urban or farm land , the only consequence has been mining companies need to pay bigger bribes, erm, compensation , to use that land.

[Simple Minded]

could be the start of an all new land grab in OK. Since there is no way white man can enforce white man's law in Eastern OK, former citizens of CHAZ/CHOP & BLM disciples have an open invitation.

Woulda been better if we gave them back Manhattan and Long Island. Maybe in Phase Two?

[noddy]

I would be very surprised if this land is not subjected to the law of the land - ownership doesnt make you sovereign,

[Simple Minded]

I would be very surprised if this land is not subjected to the law of the land - ownership doesnt make you sovereign,

please explain.

I suspect that, all humor aside, nothing much will change with the possible exception of lots of lawsuits arguing the meaning of every word previously used in said treaties. Kinda like a make work program for lawyers and lobbyists.

The other result is the US is rapidly approaching the point of very few people caring what SCOTUS (or any elected official in DC) says about much of anything. The vast majority of the US would get along just fine if DC was swallowed up by an Earthquake or if COVID-19 wiped out all the inhabitants of DC. It would be business as usual but with less taxes.

Smaller local governments, and even individual people ignoring the Federal government when it gets insane is the whole reason The Constitution was written.

DC is a long way away from OK. Eastern OK should secede from the union! Seems like SCOTUS has already said "You're really not part of the US." So why not? good first step would be tearing down any Federal statues.......

Eastern OK: "We're seceding from the US."
DC: "You can't do that. We own your ass!"
Eastern OK: "No you don't! SOCTUS already said we're not part of the US. So bite me!"

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

[Simple Minded]

how about a link? if I had a 14 foot monitor......

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

The Creek had a case, that much was obvious a year ago, when I ran across the story.


And right now everyone is saying the right things, that it's just about legal jurisdiction, it will change a thing, it only applies to the natives.

But the door is opened, ll over that map for all sorts of lawfare.

In the biger picture, if it's now state land and under federal jurisdiction, how does it continue to have representation in congress? Why should the tax money go to Oklahoma City and not the Creek?

If granting statehood to the territory of Oklahoma was improperly done, is Oklahoma actually a state?

Multiply this, and it's a real mess.

[Simple Minded]

this might work out really well actually.

1. the Creek Nation elders agree that anyone inside the reservation who wants to pay them 40% of their current Federal tax rate can become a blood brother member of the tribe.
2. all residents and business inside the reservation since 1907 sue the Federal govt for reimbursement of all taxes paid since 1907. Must be paid in gold, not the white man's paper money.
3. Everybody wins. Red Lives Matter gets painted on every street and building.

Biggest problem would be becoming the Switzerland of North America. Everyone would want to emigrate.

[NapLajoieonSteroids]

how about a link? if I had a 14 foot monitor......

A pdf to the 1978 tribal area agreement

[Simple Minded]

The Creek had a case, that much was obvious a year ago, when I ran across the story.


And right now everyone is saying the right things, that it's just about legal jurisdiction, it will change a thing, it only applies to the natives.

But the door is opened, ll over that map for all sorts of lawfare.

In the biger picture, if it's now state land and under federal jurisdiction, how does it continue to have representation in congress? Why should the tax money go to Oklahoma City and not the Creek?

If granting statehood to the territory of Oklahoma was improperly done, is Oklahoma actually a state?

Multiply this, and it's a real mess.

Just a few years ago, the magazine covers said "We're all Socialists now!"

I like the cover of "Were all Creek tribe members now!" much better!