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Bizarre phenomena. Wimpy CEO's, politicians, and opinion makers responding to...... virtual reality? Shadows? Scary looking inkblots?

Strikes me as a form of mental illness.
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Simple Minded wrote: Thu Sep 26, 2019 12:22 pm Bizarre phenomena. Wimpy CEO's, politicians, and opinion makers responding to...... virtual reality? Shadows? Scary looking inkblots?

Strikes me as a form of mental illness.
Whatever it is it is not real journalism. More like click bait as TP says. By what the editor said as an excuse, seems like click bait is now company policy
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What they did to this guy is beyond the pale. A background check for a human interest story about some private person?

It's one thing to check where the money is going; it's beyond credible to say checking into his life for the past 8 years, into his adolescence, is standard operating procedure.

If the Des Moines Register was owned by decent people, those who perpetrated this would've been fired promptly.
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Apparently the Reporter, Aaron Calvin, had some unacceptable tweets of his own, and he has been dismissed from his job. Which perpetuates the cycle, strangely enough.

I have no idea what his motives were, the tweets he found were 8 years old when the cat was 16....

At the same time, the editors bear some responsibility, and by firing the guy they get off scott-free and the cycle will repeat.

I remember when we used to say "it's a free country" when confronted by the thought police.
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Juno wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 5:46 am Apparently the Reporter, Aaron Calvin, had some unacceptable tweets of his own, and he has been dismissed from his job. Which perpetuates the cycle, strangely enough.

I have no idea what his motives were, the tweets he found were 8 years old when the cat was 16....

At the same time, the editors bear some responsibility, and by firing the guy they get off scott-free and the cycle will repeat.

I remember when we used to say "it's a free country" when confronted by the thought police.
I remember those days. The chastisement of "It's a free country" was often followed by "so why don't you grow the Hell up?" The public shaming of future adult snowflakes in their adolescent years was a good thing.

As the great philosopher Cher has noted "Words are like weapons, they wound sometimes."

Hmmmm, so, if words are like bullets, then social media are like guns..... there's a solution there somewhere, it's on the tip of my tongue.....
It might take a while, but I'm sure the "solution" will be obvious to some woke people sooner or later.
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Elevating the cancel culture discourse to a theoretical philosophical/theological plateau (how da ya like dose big werds Nap?)..... what if Social Media is Hell, and the people who spend time there just don't realize they're dead yet?
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Although I'm an atheist, I prefer traditional religions to the 21st century secular versions vying as replacements.

The traditional religions at least have the concepts of mercy, forgiveness, and redemption;
aspects wholly lacking in these new time religions which only offer disproportionate punishment for transgressions with excommunication and damnation in perpetuity.

As was the case with fascism and especially communism in the 20th century.
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Colonel Sun wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:52 pm Although I'm an atheist, I prefer traditional religions to the 21st century secular versions vying as replacements.

The traditional religions at least have the concepts of mercy, forgiveness, and redemption;
aspects wholly lacking in these new time religions which only offer disproportionate punishment for transgressions with excommunication and damnation in perpetuity.

As was the case with fascism and especially communism in the 20th century.
Amen. Add justice, repentance & righteousness.

Ethics must be tied to superhuman values. Religion is like an electrical transformer that brings these high voltage values down to a level usable by humanity.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:03 pm
Colonel Sun wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:52 pm Although I'm an atheist, I prefer traditional religions to the 21st century secular versions vying as replacements.

The traditional religions at least have the concepts of mercy, forgiveness, and redemption;
aspects wholly lacking in these new time religions which only offer disproportionate punishment for transgressions with excommunication and damnation in perpetuity.

As was the case with fascism and especially communism in the 20th century.
Amen. Add justice, repentance & righteousness.

Ethics must be tied to superhuman values. Religion is like an electrical transformer that brings these high voltage values down to a level usable by humanity.
Double Amen gents (two gender identities assumed and assigned).

The downside of the traditional religions is that mercy, forgiveness, redemption, justice, repentance, righteousness, rules, commandments, morals, empathy, and self-discipline all limit one's virtual omnipotent powers to practice omniscience and judgement with little effort, knowledge, or thought.

No wonder the current fast food religions are so popular. You don't even need a drive thru windows, just access to social media.

I think the age old question of why Jesus did not appear in modern times when mass communication was possible has finally been answered. On the upside, imagine all the trees that are being saved cause crosses are no longer needed.
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Simple Minded wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:49 pm
Nonc Hilaire wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 6:03 pm
Colonel Sun wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:52 pm Although I'm an atheist, I prefer traditional religions to the 21st century secular versions vying as replacements.

The traditional religions at least have the concepts of mercy, forgiveness, and redemption;
aspects wholly lacking in these new time religions which only offer disproportionate punishment for transgressions with excommunication and damnation in perpetuity.

As was the case with fascism and especially communism in the 20th century.
Amen. Add justice, repentance & righteousness.

Ethics must be tied to superhuman values. Religion is like an electrical transformer that brings these high voltage values down to a level usable by humanity.
Double Amen gents (two gender identities assumed and assigned).

The downside of the traditional religions is that mercy, forgiveness, redemption, justice, repentance, righteousness, rules, commandments, morals, empathy, and self-discipline all limit one's virtual omnipotent powers to practice omniscience and judgement with little effort, knowledge, or thought.

No wonder the current fast food religions are so popular. You don't even need a drive thru windows, just access to social media.

I think the age old question of why Jesus did not appear in modern times when mass communication was possible has finally been answered. On the upside, imagine all the trees that are being saved cause crosses are no longer needed.
A little clarification.

The fundamental divine realities (theism is optional) exist in relativities. Justice/Mercy, Forgiveness/Repentance as illustrations.

Humanity must discern how to balance these to best approximate the will of God (or Good Orderly Direction for our athiests).

The problem with rules and commandments are they are only signs pointing to the divine realities. The problem with “cancel culture” is that it seeks to obfuscate the need for discernment by restricting heresy and individuality.

‘Cancel Culture’ is really an inquisition using rules and commandments to point away from how to discern a divine balance. It’s modeled after the worst abuses of traditional religion.
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Nonc Hilaire wrote: Sat Sep 28, 2019 4:23 pm
A little clarification.

The fundamental divine realities (theism is optional) exist in relativities. Justice/Mercy, Forgiveness/Repentance as illustrations.

Humanity must discern how to balance these to best approximate the will of God (or Good Orderly Direction for our athiests).

The problem with rules and commandments are they are only signs pointing to the divine realities. The problem with “cancel culture” is that it seeks to obfuscate the need for discernment by restricting heresy and individuality.

‘Cancel Culture’ is really an inquisition using rules and commandments to point away from how to discern a divine balance. It’s modeled after the worst abuses of traditional religion.
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Simple Minded wrote: Fri Sep 27, 2019 12:06 pm Elevating the cancel culture discourse to a theoretical philosophical/theological plateau (how da ya like dose big werds Nap?)..... what if Social Media is Hell, and the people who spend time there just don't realize they're dead yet?
Maybe the Journalists have entered a hellhole.
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In one of my classes yesterday we were talking about current events, and a student mentioned that the soldier in the famous Times Square kissing photo had died. “Yes,” I said. “Too bad. Such a beautiful image, and such a moment of joy.” One of my least favorite students, a smug know-it-all in the back row, piped up. “You actually like that photo?” she said. “Well, yeah,” I replied, a bit taken aback. “That’s an iconic image of a moment of unbridled joy.”
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“And do you think she consented to that kiss?” she said icily. “No, no she did not. That is a photo of an assault. That man should have gone to jail.”
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Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:28 am
In one of my classes yesterday we were talking about current events, and a student mentioned that the soldier in the famous Times Square kissing photo had died. “Yes,” I said. “Too bad. Such a beautiful image, and such a moment of joy.” One of my least favorite students, a smug know-it-all in the back row, piped up. “You actually like that photo?” she said. “Well, yeah,” I replied, a bit taken aback. “That’s an iconic image of a moment of unbridled joy.”
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“And do you think she consented to that kiss?” she said icily. “No, no she did not. That is a photo of an assault. That man should have gone to jail.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... okescolds/
Actually Lee Friedlander, who took the picture, said it was posed at his request.
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their is a certain type of personality which responds badly to aquiring power, all the bitterness and nastyness from years of self percieved injustice they have in them, needs to express itself.

In some ways the ole time religions are benefitting from all those folks indentifying as woke progressives now, its not like anybody wants to claim them as their own.

I wish I could find the Spike Milligan skit on loving the rules about standing up for the queen, paraphrasing my memory of it - its not about the queen, its about getting permission to hit the guy that didnt stand up.
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Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:28 am
In one of my classes yesterday we were talking about current events, and a student mentioned that the soldier in the famous Times Square kissing photo had died. “Yes,” I said. “Too bad. Such a beautiful image, and such a moment of joy.” One of my least favorite students, a smug know-it-all in the back row, piped up. “You actually like that photo?” she said. “Well, yeah,” I replied, a bit taken aback. “That’s an iconic image of a moment of unbridled joy.”
Image
“And do you think she consented to that kiss?” she said icily. “No, no she did not. That is a photo of an assault. That man should have gone to jail.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... okescolds/
Outstanding article MFF, thanks for posting.
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noddy wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:55 pm their is a certain type of personality which responds badly to aquiring power, all the bitterness and nastyness from years of self percieved injustice they have in them, needs to express itself.

In some ways the ole time religions are benefitting from all those folks indentifying as woke progressives now, its not like anybody wants to claim them as their own.

I wish I could find the Spike Milligan skit on loving the rules about standing up for the queen, paraphrasing my memory of it - its not about the queen, its about getting permission to hit the guy that didnt stand up.
Yep. I think that is a pretty good understanding of basic human nature.

Though I do think I should virtually chastise you for the intentions that motivated your post. Unfortunately, I can't discern if you were wokescolding me, or mansplaining it to me. :?

Sigh... Self-righteousness can be such a heavy burden at times. :(. But somebody has to do it.
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Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:28 am
In one of my classes yesterday we were talking about current events, and a student mentioned that the soldier in the famous Times Square kissing photo had died. “Yes,” I said. “Too bad. Such a beautiful image, and such a moment of joy.” One of my least favorite students, a smug know-it-all in the back row, piped up. “You actually like that photo?” she said. “Well, yeah,” I replied, a bit taken aback. “That’s an iconic image of a moment of unbridled joy.”
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“And do you think she consented to that kiss?” she said icily. “No, no she did not. That is a photo of an assault. That man should have gone to jail.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... okescolds/
I like how the first response is always that women are powerless and cant give consent.
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Simple Minded wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:26 pm Unfortunately, I can't discern if you were wokescolding me, or mansplaining it to me. :?
both, im the ultimate syncretist, I could possible sneak abit of good ole religious shaming in to that aswell if you prefer the 3 way perspective.
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noddy wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:21 am
Miss_Faucie_Fishtits wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 2:28 am
In one of my classes yesterday we were talking about current events, and a student mentioned that the soldier in the famous Times Square kissing photo had died. “Yes,” I said. “Too bad. Such a beautiful image, and such a moment of joy.” One of my least favorite students, a smug know-it-all in the back row, piped up. “You actually like that photo?” she said. “Well, yeah,” I replied, a bit taken aback. “That’s an iconic image of a moment of unbridled joy.”
Image
“And do you think she consented to that kiss?” she said icily. “No, no she did not. That is a photo of an assault. That man should have gone to jail.”
https://www.theamericanconservative.com ... okescolds/
I like how the first response is always that women are powerless and cant give consent.
There's that and more.

I know the photograph is staged but nobody's body language in that picture says that there is distress or some sort of violation occurring. It's a total blindness to what people are "saying" with their bodies. And then assuming that everyone surrounding them, including the photographer, is some sort of sado-masochist who are perfectly alright with other people being treated poorly in plain sight.
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Tangentially related is the rise of these sufferin porn type things with a dash of savior complex aimed at white middle class women.
Outlander and Handmaidens tale spring to mind - full of rape and abuse.
I spose I should thank my lucky stars that male orientated material doesnt go those places at the moment, tho apparently rambo is back!
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noddy wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:29 am
Simple Minded wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2019 3:26 pm Unfortunately, I can't discern if you were wokescolding me, or mansplaining it to me. :?
both, im the ultimate syncretist, I could possible sneak abit of good ole religious shaming in to that aswell if you prefer the 3 way perspective.
Give it to me good and hard. What self loathing victim wouldn't jump at the opportunity to be triple oppressed?
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noddy wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:41 am Tangentially related is the rise of these sufferin porn type things with a dash of savior complex aimed at white middle class women.
Outlander and Handmaidens tale spring to mind - full of rape and abuse.
I spose I should thank my lucky stars that male orientated material doesnt go those places at the moment, tho apparently rambo is back!
I heard that in the new Rambo, in order to increase potential viewers, he only uses plastic straws to kill people. No guns in the movie at all.
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Simple Minded wrote: Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:53 am I heard that in the new Rambo, in order to increase potential viewers, he only uses plastic straws to kill people. No guns in the movie at all.
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