Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Now, what news on the Rialto?
Post Reply
User avatar
Antipatros
Posts: 644
Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2012 7:33 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Antipatros »

Special Report on the Future of Money:

The Last Days of Cash

How E-Money Technology is Plugging Us into the Digital Economy

http://spectrum.ieee.org/static/future-of-money
Be not too curious of Good and Evil;
Seek not to count the future waves of Time;
But be ye satisfied that you have light
Enough to take your step and find your foothold.

--T.S. Eliot
User avatar
Azrael
Posts: 1863
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:57 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Azrael »

Typhoon wrote:Betting that US and UK govt bond rates will rise is probably a great way to make a small fortune . . . starting with a large fortune.
I agree.

My godfather has had his non-primary-residence assets in Treasuries for years. His adviser thought he was crazy, but with yields falling, he's been making more money than in any other asset class. Heavily indebted national governments will keep the interest rates artificially low for as long as they can, because they can't afford to pay higher rates. If the economy were in great shape interest rates would be higher (as would tax receipts), but that probably won't happen for years.
cultivate a white rose
User avatar
Azrael
Posts: 1863
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:57 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Azrael »

Mr. Perfect wrote:My "man in Beijing" is tremendously bearish. One of my best friends has been manufacturing in China for nearly 10 years and is totally disgusted with business over there at this point and is considering relocating to SK. The CCP is essentially a mafia not to be trusted in any way, screwing everything and everybody native or foreigner for their short term gain.
This is consistent with what Zizek wrote about the red telephone (the first time I heard of him).
This is a long term and not a short term prognostication. I don't know if there is enough solid data to make short term prediction.
I agree. I wrote about my views at length on Tinker's old forum.
If the China bubble pops I would say that country is stagnant for a century.
Not sure about that. Who knows? Not even Hu.
The only interesting thing about the place was the possibility it had of having an America within itself, a portion of the population with somewhat of a US standard of living, surrounded by the rest of the population of perpetually impoverished people.
That's a rather insular view. China has always been interesting for lots of reasons.
cultivate a white rose
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

Big Trouble in Big China?

FT | China cuts main interest rate
China has cut interest rates by 25 basis points, its strongest move yet to prop up the economy as growth weakens.
It is the first time that the Chinese central bank has reduced rates since 2008.

Just a couple of months ago, few analysts had forecast that Beijing would cut rates, believing that China was on track for a “soft landing”.
Must be the three most common phrases in financial journalism:
analysts were surprised that . . .

analysts did not expect that . . .

analysts did not forecast that . . .
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

In Miami for a few days on business.

Staying in Miami Beach, to satisfy my dilettantish interest in architecture. Art Deco period in this case.

Some anecdotal data points:

1/ Miami Beach seems slow: "deader than Heaven on a Saturday night." [update] S Beach does get busier in the evening.

2/ The taxi drivers, who all seem to be immigrants from Haiti, say the while it's better than 2008, business is still slow.

Eg., only 1 or 2 cruise ships docked instead of the usual 12 for this time of year.

3/ While it's hard to maintain stucco in such a hot and esp humid climate, a number of buildings and sites struck me as under maintained.

4/ [update] Real estate is being sold, but mostly to foreign investors [Brasilians, Argentinians, etc]

5/ To quote a British friend, "There's some amazing crumpet here." Wish I spoke fluent Spanish :wink:

6/ The beach and the ocean, the natural beauty, are wonderful. Flying in one can see that most of Miami was once swampland.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

IHT | Family Net Worth Drops to Level of Early ’90s, Fed Says
A hypothetical family richer than half the nation’s families and poorer than the other half had a net worth of $77,300 in 2010, compared with $126,400 in 2007, the Fed said. The crash of housing prices directly accounted for three-quarters of the loss.

Families’ income also continued to decline, a trend that predated the crisis but accelerated over the same period. Median family income fell to $45,800 in 2010 from $49,600 in 2007. All figures were adjusted for inflation.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
User avatar
Juggernaut Nihilism
Posts: 1417
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:55 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Juggernaut Nihilism »

Typhoon wrote:IHT | Family Net Worth Drops to Level of Early ’90s, Fed Says
A hypothetical family richer than half the nation’s families and poorer than the other half had a net worth of $77,300 in 2010, compared with $126,400 in 2007, the Fed said. The crash of housing prices directly accounted for three-quarters of the loss.

Families’ income also continued to decline, a trend that predated the crisis but accelerated over the same period. Median family income fell to $45,800 in 2010 from $49,600 in 2007. All figures were adjusted for inflation.
Our governments obsession with net worth is part of the problem. We enact fiscal, monetary, and social policies to drive asset prices higher and real incomes lower. Therefore asset prices and net worth go up, while incomes remain stagnant, and we are shocked, shocked, when the two diverge so much that people who are not yet owners can no longer find a reasonable entry point to the market and the Ponzi collapses for a lack of new participants.
"The fundamental rule of political analysis from the point of psychology is, follow the sacredness, and around it is a ring of motivated ignorance."
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

Juggernaut Nihilism wrote:
Typhoon wrote:IHT | Family Net Worth Drops to Level of Early ’90s, Fed Says
A hypothetical family richer than half the nation’s families and poorer than the other half had a net worth of $77,300 in 2010, compared with $126,400 in 2007, the Fed said. The crash of housing prices directly accounted for three-quarters of the loss.

Families’ income also continued to decline, a trend that predated the crisis but accelerated over the same period. Median family income fell to $45,800 in 2010 from $49,600 in 2007. All figures were adjusted for inflation.
Our governments obsession with net worth is part of the problem. We enact fiscal, monetary, and social policies to drive asset prices higher and real incomes lower. Therefore asset prices and net worth go up, while incomes remain stagnant, and we are shocked, shocked, when the two diverge so much that people who are not yet owners can no longer find a reasonable entry point to the market and the Ponzi collapses for a lack of new participants.
Indeed.

The opportunity for upward socio-economic mobility was the greatest appeal of the American Dream.

Bloomberg | The Problem With Henry* May Derail U.S. Recovery

*Henry -> High Earner Not Rich Yet
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
User avatar
monster_gardener
Posts: 5334
Joined: Fri Dec 23, 2011 12:36 am
Location: Trolla. Land of upside down trees and tomatos........

JP Morgan's Big Secret: Pension Funds

Post by monster_gardener »

Thank you Very Much for the thread to the Admins.

(Moved from American Politics)

Financial Crisis - JP Morgan's Big Secret: Pension Funds
Charles Gasparino

While the Senate Banking Committee last week spun its wheels trying to get JP Morgan chief Jamie Dimon to admit to something nefarious during testimony about his “London Whale” trading loss, executives at the big bank were concealing a far bigger scandal.

OK, it’s no secret that nation’s public pension funds are in big trouble, holding large “unfunded” liabilities owed to public workers once they retire. But most politicians (New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is an exception) will tell you the problem is fairly containable, that there are simple fixes — such as raising taxes on the rich or pruning benefits.

Silent on the real problem: Even as senators quizzed JP Morgan’s Jamie Dimon about his losses, he was mum about the muni-market mess.

Not so, warns a “strictly confidential” report JP Morgan issued last year. It describes in straightforward, frightening detail how underfunded pensions are huge ticking timebombs for many of the nation’s big cities and states.

The scandal isn’t simply that most public officials are misleading the public about the enormity of the problem and what steps must be taken to address the matter. As the Morgan report notes, many of the real liabilities are located “off balance sheet,” hidden from the public’s eye, and lax accounting standards let cities and states minimize their enormity.

It’s also that JP Morgan itself kept the report’s findings a secret except for a few big clients, mostly hedge funds and large institutional investors, who got the inside tip on which states and cities are most likely to default on their debt as their pension liabilities fester.

Yes: Default is a very real possibility, because the solutions are far from easy.
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/opinion/op ... z1yA7ioI4f
For the love of G_d, consider you & I may be mistaken.
Orion Must Rise: Killer Space Rocks Coming Our way
The Best Laid Plans of Men, Monkeys & Pigs Oft Go Awry
Woe to those who long for the Day of the Lord, for It is Darkness, Not Light
Alph
Posts: 12
Joined: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:36 am

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Alph »

Like the rest of the BRICs, China is and always will be the country of the future. That is their shared trait. They always do extremely well, enough to terrify the first world... Until the boosts in productivity offered by cheap technology can no longer overcome the deep cultural, political, and geographic reasons that they were poorer than the first world to begin with. Which is a shame.

Of course, the same is true of Japan, the United States, Germany and all the rest of us, each in our own way and at our own levels for our own reasons. And technology has not done much fundamental lifting of late. Here's to hoping that changes soon, because our cultures and governments sure aren't going to get any smarter. Not that being stuck at modern first world levels for a few generations would be particularly unpleasant, historically speaking.
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

Alph wrote:Like the rest of the BRICs, China is and always will be the country of the future. That is their shared trait. They always do extremely well, enough to terrify the first world... Until the boosts in productivity offered by cheap technology can no longer overcome the deep cultural, political, and geographic reasons that they were poorer than the first world to begin with. Which is a shame.
My Brazilian friends used to joke that
Brazil is the country of the Future . . .

. . . and always will be.
Hope that the future arrives for Brazil in my lifetime.

On the other hand, I suspect China is heading for a big crash.
Alph wrote: Of course, the same is true of Japan, the United States, Germany and all the rest of us, each in our own way and at our own levels for our own reasons. And technology has not done much fundamental lifting of late. Here's to hoping that changes soon, because our cultures and governments sure aren't going to get any smarter. Not that being stuck at modern first world levels for a few generations would be particularly unpleasant, historically speaking.
Indeed.

Facebook is not Wintel [Microsoft + Intel]. Calling it a [high] tech company is a misnomer.

It's to the internet as what Warner Bros was to the motion picture camera.

And as you pointed out, by any historical measure, life is okay for most people in the industrialized world.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

US govt bond yields back down at historic lows: at levels last seen during the Great Blowout

Image

Image

Thoughts?
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
Simple Minded

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Simple Minded »

Typhoon wrote:US govt bond yields back down at historic lows: at levels last seen during the Great Blowout

Image

Image

Thoughts?
Contrary to what many believe, the selling price is always determined by the buyer, not the seller. Thankfully!!!
AzariLoveIran

“ Fake it until you make it ”

Post by AzariLoveIran »

.

Global economy’s cure is worse than the disease

.
The patient’s history includes a seizure in 2007/ 2008 — financial losses, banking problems, a major recession. Liberal injections of taxpayer cash avoided catastrophic multiple organ failure . .

Governments ran large budget deficits in the period after the crisis. Interest rates around the world were reduced to historic lows, zero or negative in many developed countries. Balance sheets of major central banks have increased to $18 trillion from around $6 trillion, reflecting an unprecedented 30% of global gross domestic product.

Mr. Economy is now addicted to monetary heroin. Increasing doses are necessary for the patient to function at all.

Mr. Economy has not made the changes necessary for a return to full health. He seems to have taken rock star Steven Tyler’s advice: “Fake it until you make it.”

Borrowing levels remain unsustainable. Debt levels for 11 major nations have increased to 417% of GDP in 2012 from 381% of GDP in 2007. Debt has increased in Canada, Germany, Greece, France, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Spain, Portugal, the U.K. and the U.S.

:lol: and much more @ the link

.

folks , all smoke and mirror, you broke but want to start a war, building and building new military bases



.
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

Image

Economist | Big Mac Index 2012

The comments about Argentina are illuminating.

To think that there was once a popular expression: "To be rich like an Argentinian."
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
AzariLoveIran

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by AzariLoveIran »

.

Look folks

Billions and Billions is lost on FaceBook fiasco

Wall Street hipped it, shafted to poor small guy (no fund bought a single FB share, they said so)

this was a classic Wall Street stunt .. screwing the small investor and making billion


Facebook Inc (FB.O) reported a drastic slowdown in revenue growth and failed to offer financial forecasts to quell fears about its ability to boost advertising growth, sending its shares plummeting to a record low.


there should be a congressional investigation .. small guy lost fortune @ the same time Wall Street crooks made billion

Look, Mr. Perfect

How could the underwriters , IPO, say this lavender was worth $ 38/share and not even a month later that rubbish is $ 23/share ? ? ?

IMVHO, underwriters must guaranty what they say, that is why they make so much on IPO fees


Poor Joe , poor Joe


.
User avatar
Enki
Posts: 5052
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:04 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Enki »

Anyone who didn't see the FB business coming was a fool.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
User avatar
Endovelico
Posts: 3038
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:00 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Endovelico »

A lecture by Noam Chomsky

mTjRza4In_o

(Chomsky's lecture starts at 4:40 minutes)
User avatar
Juggernaut Nihilism
Posts: 1417
Joined: Mon Feb 13, 2012 7:55 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Juggernaut Nihilism »

Enki wrote:Anyone who didn't see the FB business coming was a fool.
How much money did you make shorting it? I missed the boat.
"The fundamental rule of political analysis from the point of psychology is, follow the sacredness, and around it is a ring of motivated ignorance."
User avatar
Enki
Posts: 5052
Joined: Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:04 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Enki »

I don't have the excess capital to make risky investments.
Men often oppose a thing merely because they have had no agency in planning it, or because it may have been planned by those whom they dislike.
-Alexander Hamilton
User avatar
Endovelico
Posts: 3038
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 3:00 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Endovelico »

Very long, but definitely very much worth reading:
How Change Happens
By John Mauldin | Aug 17, 2012

"To trace something unknown back to something known is alleviating, soothing, gratifying and gives moreover a feeling of power. Danger, disquiet, anxiety attend the unknown – the first instinct is to eliminate these distressing states. First principle: any explanation is better than none… The cause-creating drive is thus conditioned and excited by the feeling of fear …"

– Friedrich Nietzsche


"Any explanation is better than none." And the simpler, it seems, in the investment game, the better. "The markets went up because oil went down," we are told. Then the next day the opposite relationship occurs, and there is another reason for the movement of the markets. But we all intuitively know that things are far more complicated than that. As Nietzsche noted, dealing with the unknown can be disturbing, so we look for the simple explanation.

"Ah," we tell ourselves, "I know why that happened." With an explanation firmly in mind, we now feel we know something. And the behavioral psychologists note that this state actually releases chemicals in our brain that make us feel good. We literally become addicted to the simple explanation. The fact that what we "know" (the explanation for the unknowable) is irrelevant or even wrong is not important for the chemical release. And thus we look eagerly for reasons.

And that is also why some people get so angry when you challenge their beliefs. You are literally taking away the source of their good feeling, like drugs from a junkie or a boyfriend from a teenage girl.

Thus we reason that the NASDAQ bubble happened because of Greenspan. Or that it was a collective mania. Or any number of things. Just as the proverbial butterfly flapping its wings in the Amazon triggers a storm in Europe, we may conclude that a borrower in Las Vegas triggered the subprime crash.

Crazy? Maybe not. Today we will look at what complexity theory tells us about the reasons for phenomena as apparently diverse as earthquakes and the movement of markets. Then we’ll look at how New Zealand, Fed policy, gold, oil, and that lone investor in St. Louis are all tied together in a critical state. Of course, how critical and which state are the issues.

This is an encore appearance of the letter that is clearly the most popular one I have ever written, updated with a few thoughts from recent times (it was also part of a chapter in Endgame). Numerous reviewers have stated that this one letter should be read every year. As you read, or reread, I’ll be enjoying a week off. I have gone off to a secret location to relax and get away, all by my lonesome, which is something I have really not done for years. It will be interesting to see if I can adjust to all the peace and quiet, but so far I am coping quite well. And now, let’s think about ubiquity.

Ubiquity, Complexity Theory, and Sandpiles

We are going to start our explorations with excerpts from a very important book by Mark Buchanan, called Ubiquity: Why Catastrophes Happen. I HIGHLY recommend it to those of you who, like me, are trying to understand the complexity of the markets. Not directly about investing, although he touches on it, it is about chaos theory, complexity theory and critical states. It is written in a manner any layman can understand. There are no equations, just easy to grasp, well-written stories and analogies. http://www.amazom.com/ubiquity.

As kids, we all had the fun of going to the beach and playing in the sand. Remember taking your plastic buckets and making sand piles? Slowly pouring the sand into an ever bigger pile, until one side of the pile started an avalanche?

Imagine, Buchanan says, dropping one grain of sand after another onto a table. A pile soon develops. Eventually, just one grain starts an avalanche. Most of the time it is a small one, but sometimes it builds on itself and it seems like one whole side of the pile slides down to the bottom.

Well, in 1987 three physicists, named Per Bak, Chao Tang, and Kurt Weisenfeld began to play the sandpile game in their lab at Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York. Now, actually piling up one grain of sand at a time is a slow process, so they wrote a computer program to do it. Not as much fun, but a whole lot faster. Not that they really cared about sandpiles. They were more interested in what are called nonequilibrium systems.

They learned some interesting things. What is the typical size of an avalanche? After a huge number of tests with millions of grains of sand, they found that there is no typical number. "Some involved a single grain; others, ten, a hundred or a thousand. Still others were pile-wide cataclysms involving millions that brought nearly the whole mountain down. At any time, literally anything, it seemed, might be just about to occur."

The piles were indeed completely chaotic in their unpredictability. Now, let’s read this next paragraph from Buchanan slowly. It is important, as it creates a mental image that may help us understand the organization of the financial markets and the world economy. (emphasis mine)

"To find out why [such unpredictability] should show up in their sandpile game, Bak and colleagues next played a trick with their computer. Imagine peering down on the pile from above, and coloring it in according to its steepness. Where it is relatively flat and stable, color it green; where steep and, in avalanche terms, ‘ready to go,’ color it red. What do you see? They found that at the outset the pile looked mostly green, but that, as the pile grew, the green became infiltrated with ever more red. With more grains, the scattering of red danger spots grew until a dense skeleton of instability ran through the pile. Here then was a clue to its peculiar behavior: a grain falling on a red spot can, by domino-like action, cause sliding at other nearby red spots. If the red network was sparse, and all trouble spots were well isolated one from the other, then a single grain could have only limited repercussions. But when the red spots come to riddle the pile, the consequences of the next grain become fiendishly unpredictable. It might trigger only a few tumblings, or it might instead set off a cataclysmic chain reaction involving millions. The sandpile seemed to have configured itself into a hypersensitive and peculiarly unstable condition in which the next falling grain could trigger a response of any size whatsoever."

The Critical State

Something only a math nerd could love? Scientists refer to this as a critical state. The term critical state can mean the point at which water would go to ice or steam, or the moment that critical mass induces a nuclear reaction, etc. It is the point at which something triggers a change in the basic nature or character of the object or group. Thus, (and very casually for all you physicists) we refer to something being in a critical state (or use the term critical mass) when there is the opportunity for significant change.

"But to physicists, [the critical state] has always been seen as a kind of theoretical freak and sideshow, a devilishly unstable and unusual condition that arises only under the most exceptional circumstances [in highly controlled experiments]… In the sandpile game, however, a critical state seemed to arise naturally through the mindless sprinkling of grains."

Thus, they asked themselves, could this phenomenon show up elsewhere? In the earth’s crust triggering earthquakes, or as wholesale changes in an ecosystem – or as a stock market crash? "Could the special organization of the critical state explain why the world at large seems so susceptible to unpredictable upheavals?" Could it help us understand not just earthquakes, but why cartoons in a third rate paper in Denmark could cause world-wide riots?

Buchanan concludes in his opening chapter: "There are many subtleties and twists in the story … but the basic message, roughly speaking, is simple: The peculiar and exceptionally unstable organization of the critical state does indeed seem to be ubiquitous in our world. Researchers in the past few years have found its mathematical fingerprints in the workings of all the upheavals I’ve mentioned so far [earthquakes, eco-disasters, market crashes], as well as in the spreading of epidemics, the flaring of traffic jams, the patterns by which instructions trickle down from managers to workers in the office, and in many other things. At the heart of our story, then, lies the discovery that networks of things of all kinds – atoms, molecules, species, people, and even ideas – have a marked tendency to organize themselves along similar lines. On the basis of this insight, scientists are finally beginning to fathom what lies behind tumultuous events of all sorts, and to see patterns at work where they have never seen them before."

Now, let’s think about this for a moment. Going back to the sandpile game, you find that as you double the number of grains of sand involved in an avalanche, the probability of an avalanche becomes 2.14 times more likely. We find something similar in earthquakes. In terms of energy, the data indicate that earthquakes become four times less likely each time you double the energy they release. Mathematicians refer to this as a "power law," a special mathematical pattern that stands out in contrast to the overall complexity of the earthquake process.

Fingers of Instability

So what happens in our game? "…after the pile evolves into a critical state, many grains rest just on the verge of tumbling, and these grains link up into ‘fingers of instability’ of all possible lengths. While many are short, others slice through the pile from one end to the other. So the chain reaction triggered by a single grain might lead to an avalanche of any size whatsoever, depending on whether that grain fell on a short, intermediate or long finger of instability."

Now, we come to a critical point in our discussion of the critical state. Again, read this with the markets in mind (again, emphasis mine):

"In this simplified setting of the sandpile, the power law also points to something else: the surprising conclusion that even the greatest of events have no special or exceptional causes. After all, every avalanche large or small starts out the same way, when a single grain falls and makes the pile just slightly too steep at one point. What makes one avalanche much larger than another has nothing to do with its original cause, and nothing to do with some special situation in the pile just before it starts. Rather, it has to do with the perpetually unstable organization of the critical state, which makes it always possible for the next grain to trigger an avalanche of any size."

Now, let’s couple this idea with a few other concepts. First, Hyman Minsky (who should have been a Nobel laureate) points out that stability leads to instability. The more comfortable we get with a given condition or trend, the longer it will persist and then when the trend fails, the more dramatic the correction. The problem with long term macroeconomic stability is that it tends to produce unstable financial arrangements. If we believe that tomorrow and next year will be the same as last week and last year, we are more willing to add debt or postpone savings in favor of current consumption. Thus, says Minsky, the longer the period of stability, the higher the potential risk for even greater instability when market participants must change their behavior.

Relating this to our sandpile, the longer that a critical state builds up in an economy, or in other words, the more "fingers of instability" that are allowed to develop a connection to other fingers of instability, the greater the potential for a serious "avalanche."

We Are Managing Uncertainty

Or, maybe a series of smaller shocks lessens the long reach of the fingers of instability, giving a paradoxical rise to even more apparent stability. As the late Hunt Taylor wrote:

"Let us start with what we know. First, these markets look nothing like anything I’ve ever encountered before. Their stunning complexity, the staggering number of tradable instruments and their interconnectedness, the light-speed at which information moves, the degree to which the movement of one instrument triggers nonlinear reactions along chains of related derivatives, and the requisite level of mathematics necessary to price them speak to the reality that we are now sailing in uncharted waters….

"I’ve had 30-plus years of learning experiences in markets, all of which tell me that technology and telecommunications will not do away with human greed and ignorance. I think we will drive the car faster and faster until something bad happens. And I think it will come, like a comet, from that part of the night sky where we least expect it. This is something old.

"I think shocks will come, but they will be shallower, shorter. They will be harder to predict, because we are not really managing risk anymore. We are managing uncertainty – too many new variables, plus leverage on a scale we have never encountered (something borrowed). And, when the inevitable occurs, the buying opportunities that result will be won by the technologically enabled swift."

Another way to think about it is the way Didier Sornette, a French geophysicist, has described financial crashes in his wonderful book Why Stock Markets Crash (the math, though, was far beyond me!). He wrote, "[T]he specific manner by which prices collapsed is not the most important problem: a crash occurs because the market has entered an unstable phase and any small disturbance or process may have triggered the instability. Think of a ruler held up vertically on your finger: this very unstable position will lead eventually to its collapse, as a result of a small (or an absence of adequate) motion of your hand or due to any tiny whiff of air. The collapse is fundamentally due to the unstable position; the instantaneous cause of the collapse is secondary."

When things are unstable, it isn’t the last grain of sand that causes the pile to collapse or the slight breeze that causes the ruler on your fingertip to fall. Those are the "proximate" causes. They’re the closest reasons at hand for the collapse. The real reason, though, is the "remote" cause, the farthest reason. The farthest reason is the underlying instability of the system itself.

A fundamentally unstable system is exactly what we saw in the recent credit crisis. Consumers all through the world's largest economies borrowed money for all sorts of things, because times were good. Home prices would always go up and the stock market was back to its old trick of making 15% a year. And borrowing money was relatively cheap. You could get 2% short-term loans on homes, which seemingly rose in value 15% a year, so why not buy now and sell a few years down the road?

Greed took over. Those risky loans were sold to investors by the tens and hundreds of billions of dollars, all over the world. And as with all debt sandpiles, the fault lines started to appear. Maybe it was that one loan in Las Vegas that was the critical piece of sand; we don't know, but the avalanche was triggered.

You may not remember this, but I was writing about the problems with subprime debt way back in 2005 and 2006. But as the problem actually emerged, respected people like Ben Bernanke (the chairman of the Fed) said that the problem was not all that big and that the fallout would be "contained." (I bet he wishes he could have that statement back!)

But it wasn't contained. It caused banks to realize that what they thought was AAA credit was actually a total loss. And as banks looked at what was on their books, they wondered about their fellow banks. How bad were they? Who knew? Since no one did, they stopped lending to each other. Credit simply froze. They stopped taking each other's letters of credit, and that hurt world trade. Because banks were losing money, they stopped lending to smaller businesses. Commercial paper dried up. All those "safe" off-balance-sheet funds that banks created were now folding (what my friend Paul McCulley first labeled as the Shadow Banking System). Everyone sold what they could, not what they wanted to, to cover their debts. It was a true panic. Businesses started laying off people, who in turn stopped spending as much.

As I read through this again, I think I have an insight. It is one of the reasons we get "fat tails." In theory, returns on investment should look like a smooth bell curve, with the ends tapering off into nothing. According to the theoretical distribution, events that deviate from the mean by five or more standard deviations ("5-sigma events") are extremely rare, with 10 or more sigma being practically impossible – at least in theory. However, under certain circumstances, such events are more common than expected; 15-sigma or even rarer events have happened in the world of investments. Examples of such unlikely events include Long Term Capital in the late ’90’s and any of a dozen bubbles in history. Because the real-world commonality of high-sigma events is much greater than in theory, the distribution is "fatter" at the extremes ("tails") than a truly normal one.

Thus, the build-up of critical states, those fingers of instability, is perpetuated even as, and precisely because, we hedge risks. We try to "stabilize" the risks we see, shoring them up with derivatives, emergency plans, insurance, and all manner of risk-control procedures. And by doing so, the economic system can absorb body blows that would have been severe only a few decades ago. We distribute the risks and the effects of the risk throughout the system.

Yet as we reduce the known risks, we sow the seeds for the next 10-sigma event. It is the improbable risks that we do not yet see that will create the next real crisis. It is not that the fingers of instability have been removed from the equation, it is that they are in different places and are not yet visible.

A second related concept is from game theory. The Nash equilibrium (named after John Nash, he of The Beautiful Mind) is a kind of optimal strategy for games involving two or more players, whereby the players reach an outcome to mutual advantage. If there is a set of strategies for a game with the property that no player can benefit by changing his strategy while (if) the other players keep their strategies unchanged, then that set of strategies and the corresponding payoffs constitute a Nash equilibrium.

A Stable Disequilibrium

So we end up in a critical state of what Paul McCulley calls a "stable disequilibrium." We have "players" of this game from all over the world tied inextricably together in a vast dance through investment, debt, derivatives, trade, globalization, international business and finance. Each player works hard to maximize their own personal outcome and to reduce their exposure to "fingers of instability."

But the longer we go on, asserts Minsky, the more likely and violent an "avalanche" is. The more the fingers of instability can build. The more that state of stable disequilibrium can go critical on us.

Go back to 1997. Thailand began to experience trouble. The debt explosion in Asia began to unravel. Russia was defaulting on its bonds. (Astounding. Was it less than ten years ago? Now Russian is awash in capital. Who could anticipate such a dramatic turn of events?) Things on the periphery, small fingers of instability, began to impinge on fault lines in the major world economies. Something that had not been seen before happened: the historically sound and logical relationship between 29- and 30-year bonds broke down. Then country after country suddenly and inexplicably saw that relationship in their bonds begin to correlate, an unheard-of event. A diversified pool of debt was suddenly no longer diversified.

The fingers of instability reached into Long Term Capital Management and nearly brought the financial world to its knees.

If it were not for the fact that we are coming to the closing innings of the Debt Supercycle, we would already be in a robust recovery. But we are not. And sadly, we have a long way to go with this deleveraging process. It will take years.

You can't borrow your way out of a debt crisis, whether you are a family or a nation. And, as too many families are finding out today, if you lose your job you can lose your home. People who were once very creditworthy are now filing for bankruptcy and walking away from homes. All those subprime loans going bad put huges numbers of homes back onto the market, which caused prices to fall on all homes, which caused an entire home-construction industry to collapse, which hurt all sorts of ancillary businesses, which caused more people to lose their jobs and give up their homes, and on and on. The connections in the housing part of the sandpile were long and deep.

It's all connected. We built a very unstable sand pile and it came crashing down, and now we have to dig out from the problem. And the problem was too much debt. It will take years, as banks write off home loans and commercial real estate and more, and we get down to a more reasonable level of debt as a country and as a world.

Bond markets require confidence above all else. If Greece defaults, then how far away is Spain or Japan? (We now see that Spain is not all that far!) What makes the US so different, if we do not control our debt? As Reinhart and Rogoff show, when confidence goes, the end is very near. And it always comes faster than anyone expects. Bang! there goes the sandpile.

The global financial system is all connected. Tiny Greece and now larger Spain but soon Italy and even France (!) can make a huge difference in places far removed from Europe, just as our subprime debt created a crisis all over the world. The world financial system allowed too much risk to be taken on, and then spread that risk far and wide through fancy new financial engineering and securitizations. Many investors and pension funds thought that by buying a lot of different types of securities they were diversifying their risk, when in fact the same connected risk ran through almost everything.

Investments that are normally not correlated will again show a high degree of correlation, as they did during the recent crisis, just when we need that diversification of risk to help us. There is no reason to think it will be all that much different in the next crisis period. Investing is not easy.
Simple Minded

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Simple Minded »

Endovelico wrote:Very long, but definitely very much worth reading:
How Change Happens
By John Mauldin | Aug 17, 2012

"To trace something unknown back to something known is alleviating, soothing, gratifying and gives moreover a feeling of power. Danger, disquiet, anxiety attend the unknown – the first instinct is to eliminate these distressing states. First principle: any explanation is better than none… The cause-creating drive is thus conditioned and excited by the feeling of fear …"

– Friedrich Nietzsche


"Any explanation is better than none." And the simpler, it seems, in the investment game, the better. "The markets went up because oil went down," we are told. Then the next day the opposite relationship occurs, and there is another reason for the movement of the markets. But we all intuitively know that things are far more complicated than that. As Nietzsche noted, dealing with the unknown can be disturbing, so we look for the simple explanation.

"Ah," we tell ourselves, "I know why that happened." With an explanation firmly in mind, we now feel we know something. And the behavioral psychologists note that this state actually releases chemicals in our brain that make us feel good. We literally become addicted to the simple explanation. The fact that what we "know" (the explanation for the unknowable) is irrelevant or even wrong is not important for the chemical release. And thus we look eagerly for reasons.

And that is also why some people get so angry when you challenge their beliefs. You are literally taking away the source of their good feeling, like drugs from a junkie or a boyfriend from a teenage girl.
Excellent post Endo, thanks. Given 1% of the data available, the human need to "assume" in order to broad brush in "the rest of the story" seems ubiquitous and timeless.

Due to information Age technology, more data is available than ever before, but how much do we really want to know before we jump to our preferred conclusions?

For some, a sentence or two will always suffice.
User avatar
Typhoon
Posts: 27589
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 6:42 pm
Location: 関西

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by Typhoon »

The Oz | Australia's resources boom is over, says Martin Ferguson, after BHP shelves mine expansion
The opposition will likely seize on Mr Ferguson's assessment - his starkest to date on the resources economy - given Labor's re-election strategy is based on “spreading the benefits of the boom”.

The Resources Minister has previously warned Australia could no longer rely on high commodity prices as China's economy continued to slow, and the maintenance of revenue streams would require an expansion of current capacity.
I would think that Australian is the proverbial canary in the coal mine for the Chinese economy.
May the gods preserve and defend me from self-righteous altruists; I can defend myself from my enemies and my friends.
noddy
Posts: 11380
Joined: Tue Dec 13, 2011 3:09 pm

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by noddy »

yep, just after our goverment loaded us up with trillions of dollars in debt for stimulus packages that require the mining boom to be never ending manna from heaven that keeps the entitled ones in ever improving conditions.

apparently noone got the memo that its not actually compulsory for the chinese to give us lots of money for rocks.

ho ho ho.

ymix and endo, ill be joining you soon enough now it seems - yay for me.
ultracrepidarian
User avatar
YMix
Posts: 4631
Joined: Mon Dec 12, 2011 4:53 am
Location: Department of Congruity - Report any outliers here

Re: Gloom, Doom, or Boom? Finance and Economics

Post by YMix »

The Schadenfreude Club is always accepting new members. :)
“There are a lot of killers. We’ve got a lot of killers. What, do you think our country’s so innocent? Take a look at what we’ve done, too.” - Donald J. Trump, President of the USA
The Kushner sh*t is greasy - Stevie B.
Post Reply