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Tory election spending

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Folks,

As expected, the Tories have their public spending hats on as we approach the next general election. So far I’ve noticed Cameron’s pledge to protect the state pension triple lock and Osborne’s proposal to increase the minimum wage above inflation.

What other Tory electoral bribes might we see before we get to the ballot box?

Alex.
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Is Cameron another Dim Witted Dryad Like Bush ;-) .....

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manolo wrote:Folks,

As expected, the Tories have their public spending hats on as we approach the next general election. So far I’ve noticed Cameron’s pledge to protect the state pension triple lock and Osborne’s proposal to increase the minimum wage above inflation.

What other Tory electoral bribes might we see before we get to the ballot box?

Alex.
Thank You Very Much for your post, Alex Manolo Ethinker.
What other Tory electoral bribes might we see before we get to the ballot box?
Hmmmmnnnn......

Seems that Conservatives or whatever faint facsimile thereof Cameron is, can't win favor with Liberals/Progressives/Socialists.......

They are despised even if they do what the Socialists want....

And disliked or hated if they don't....

Reminds me of how little good trying to be a "Compassionate Conservative" did for the Dim Witted Dryad ;) , George W.W.W.* Bush ;) in gaining favor with the Socialists ;) oops I mean DemocRATS here in Uz.

Wondering if Cameron is another Dim-Witted Dryad like Bush W.W.W....

BINGO!.......
Self-description of views

Cameron describes himself as a "modern compassionate conservative" and has spoken of a need for a new style of politics, saying that he was "fed up with the Punch and Judy politics of Westminster".[125] He has stated that he is "certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite."[126] He has also claimed to be a "liberal Conservative", and "not a deeply ideological person."[127] As Leader of the Opposition, Cameron stated that he did not intend to oppose the government as a matter of course, and would offer his support in areas of agreement. He has urged politicians to concentrate more on improving people's happiness and "general well-being", instead of focusing solely on "financial wealth".[128] There have been claims that he described himself to journalists at a dinner during the leadership contest as the "heir to Blair".[129]

He believes that British Muslims have a duty to integrate into British culture, but notes that they find aspects such as high divorce rates and drug use uninspiring, and that "Not for the first time, I found myself thinking that it is mainstream Britain which needs to integrate more with the British Asian way of life, not the other way around."[130]

Daniel Finkelstein has said of the period leading up to Cameron's election as leader of the Conservative party that "a small group of us (myself, David Cameron, George Osborne, Michael Gove, Nick Boles, Nick Herbert I think, once or twice) used to meet up in the offices of Policy Exchange, eat pizza, and consider the future of the Conservative Party".[131]


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Re: Is Cameron another Dim Witted Dryad Like Bush ;-) .....

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monster_gardener wrote:
Self-description of views

Cameron describes himself as a "modern compassionate conservative" and has spoken of a need for a new style of politics, saying that he was "fed up with the Punch and Judy politics of Westminster".[125] He has stated that he is "certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite."[126] He has also claimed to be a "liberal Conservative", and "not a deeply ideological person."[127] As Leader of the Opposition, Cameron stated that he did not intend to oppose the government as a matter of course, and would offer his support in areas of agreement. He has urged politicians to concentrate more on improving people's happiness and "general well-being", instead of focusing solely on "financial wealth".[128] There have been claims that he described himself to journalists at a dinner during the leadership contest as the "heir to Blair".[129]

He believes that British Muslims have a duty to integrate into British culture, but notes that they find aspects such as high divorce rates and drug use uninspiring, and that "Not for the first time, I found myself thinking that it is mainstream Britain which needs to integrate more with the British Asian way of life, not the other way around."[130]

Daniel Finkelstein has said of the period leading up to Cameron's election as leader of the Conservative party that "a small group of us (myself, David Cameron, George Osborne, Michael Gove, Nick Boles, Nick Herbert I think, once or twice) used to meet up in the offices of Policy Exchange, eat pizza, and consider the future of the Conservative Party".[131]
*Wooden-Headed Woodrow Wilson.... :lol: :roll:
Monster,

Yes, a mass of verbal contradictions. IMHO he should have told the conservative truth, as Mitt Romney bravely did, and gone the same way.

Alex. :)
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Lies, the Secret to obama's Sucess

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manolo wrote:
monster_gardener wrote:
Self-description of views

Cameron describes himself as a "modern compassionate conservative" and has spoken of a need for a new style of politics, saying that he was "fed up with the Punch and Judy politics of Westminster".[125] He has stated that he is "certainly a big Thatcher fan, but I don't know whether that makes me a Thatcherite."[126] He has also claimed to be a "liberal Conservative", and "not a deeply ideological person."[127] As Leader of the Opposition, Cameron stated that he did not intend to oppose the government as a matter of course, and would offer his support in areas of agreement. He has urged politicians to concentrate more on improving people's happiness and "general well-being", instead of focusing solely on "financial wealth".[128] There have been claims that he described himself to journalists at a dinner during the leadership contest as the "heir to Blair".[129]

He believes that British Muslims have a duty to integrate into British culture, but notes that they find aspects such as high divorce rates and drug use uninspiring, and that "Not for the first time, I found myself thinking that it is mainstream Britain which needs to integrate more with the British Asian way of life, not the other way around."[130]

Daniel Finkelstein has said of the period leading up to Cameron's election as leader of the Conservative party that "a small group of us (myself, David Cameron, George Osborne, Michael Gove, Nick Boles, Nick Herbert I think, once or twice) used to meet up in the offices of Policy Exchange, eat pizza, and consider the future of the Conservative Party".[131]
*Wooden-Headed Woodrow Wilson.... :lol: :roll:
Monster,

Yes, a mass of verbal contradictions. IMHO he should have told the conservative truth, as Mitt Romney bravely did, and gone the same way.

Alex. :)
Thank You VERY Much for your post, Alex Manolo Ethinker.
Yes, a mass of verbal contradictions.
Agreed.
IMHO he should have told the conservative truth, as Mitt Romney bravely did, and gone the same way.
As opposed to cowardly lying his way to electoral success the way obama the Despicable Arrogant Lying Creature from Chicago Lagoon did with his Progressive :twisted: multiple lies most notably but not only about his deceptive health care scheme, obamaCare..........
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Mr. Cameron may be an overprivileged toff, but a more important accusation is that he is a PR man empty suit who has no actual beliefs.

Meanwhile Ed Milliband, the leader of the opposition Labour party, understands the British people all the way from Hampstead to Primrose Hill, a 2 mile radius in North London which is the traditional home of upper class socialists, a group who idealise the working classes because they have never actually met any.

What a choice. I still hold to the belief that democracy is the worst of all political systems except for all the others, but it is hard to maintain that belief sometimes.
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the entire anglosphere is seemingly full of odious choices politcally right now with both sides barely offering anything but hollow mumbling from empty suits who obviously dont believe in the crap they are spouting.

too much change socially and economically for any of them to deal with and status quo arguments looking increasingly irrelevant.
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manolo wrote: Monster,

Yes, a mass of verbal contradictions.
That is moderates for you.
IMHO he should have told the conservative truth, as Mitt Romney bravely did, and gone the same way.
The problem is that the bravery was hit and miss. His 47% comments were secret tapes, whilst his first debate went over very well. He was very conservative during that debate.

What is the latest on the implosion of GB?
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Torchwood wrote:Mr. Cameron may be an overprivileged toff, but a more important accusation is that he is a PR man empty suit who has no actual beliefs.

Meanwhile Ed Milliband, the leader of the opposition Labour party, understands the British people all the way from Hampstead to Primrose Hill, a 2 mile radius in North London which is the traditional home of upper class socialists, a group who idealise the working classes because they have never actually met any.

What a choice. I still hold to the belief that democracy is the worst of all political systems except for all the others, but it is hard to maintain that belief sometimes.
Personally I feel that politicians that lose elections should either be executed immediately after the election. That way at least the voters can be fairly sure that who ever is running for office is sincere.
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Maybe We Need Ostracism & leaders like Astrides the Just....

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Doc wrote:
Torchwood wrote:Mr. Cameron may be an overprivileged toff, but a more important accusation is that he is a PR man empty suit who has no actual beliefs.

Meanwhile Ed Milliband, the leader of the opposition Labour party, understands the British people all the way from Hampstead to Primrose Hill, a 2 mile radius in North London which is the traditional home of upper class socialists, a group who idealise the working classes because they have never actually met any.

What a choice. I still hold to the belief that democracy is the worst of all political systems except for all the others, but it is hard to maintain that belief sometimes.
Personally I feel that politicians that lose elections should either be executed immediately after the election. That way at least the voters can be fairly sure that who ever is running for office is sincere.
Thank You Very Much for your post, Doc.

The ancient Greeks had a kinder/reversible alternative.....
Ostracism (Greek: ὀστρακισμός, ostrakismos) was a procedure under the Athenian democracy in which any citizen could be expelled from the city-state of Athens for ten years. While some instances clearly expressed popular anger at the citizen, ostracism was often used preemptively. It was used as a way of neutralizing someone thought to be a threat to the state or potential tyrant.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostracism

Maybe We Need Ostracism & leaders like Astrides the Just & Themistocles the Clever.........
Aristides was the son of Lysimachus, and a member of a family of moderate fortune. Of his early life, it is only told that he became a follower of the statesman Cleisthenes and sided with the aristocratic party in Athenian politics. He first came to notice as strategos in command of his native tribe Antiochis at the Battle of Marathon, and it was no doubt in consequence of the distinction which he then achieved that he was elected archon for the ensuing year (489—488). In pursuance of a conservative policy which aimed at maintaining Athens as a land power, he was one of the chief opponents of the naval policy proposed by Themistocles.

The conflict between the two leaders ended in the ostracism of Aristides at a date variously given between 485 and 482. It is said that, on this occasion, an illiterate voter, who did not know him, came up to him, and giving him his voting shard, desired him to write upon it the name of Aristides. The latter asked if Aristides had wronged him. "No," was the reply, "and I do not even know him, but it irritates me to hear him everywhere called 'the Just'." Aristides then wrote his own name on the ballot.[2]

Early in 480, Aristides profited by the decree recalling exiles to help in the defence of Athens against Persian invaders, and was elected strategos for the year 480–479. In the Battle of Salamis, he gave loyal support to Themistocles, and crowned the victory by landing Athenian infantry on the island of Psyttaleia and annihilating the Persian garrison stationed there.
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