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Remember the California electricity shortages?

I saw a guy in California on national TV saying there was no way he would go without Christmas lights on his house. The Politicians and people of California have so mis-managed their affairs that many have moved to Oregon. Displacing the native population there due their ability to pay more for homes than the locals.
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How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?
by Michael Snyder,

The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do?

100 years ago, the population of the state of California was 3 million, and during the 20th century we built lots of beautiful new cities in an area that was previously a desert. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?

(...)

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... disappears
I heard Canada has lot of water...
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Endovelico wrote:
How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?
by Michael Snyder,

The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do?

100 years ago, the population of the state of California was 3 million, and during the 20th century we built lots of beautiful new cities in an area that was previously a desert. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?

(...)

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... disappears
I heard Canada has lot of water...
Yes Canada would be an excellent choice for them. Lots of water Lots of polar bears to hug. The only question is how to convince the bigoted people of CA Nada to let them in.

:lol:
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Freeman Dyson on CO2 and Climate.
The world is going greener.
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Doc wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?
by Michael Snyder,

The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do?

100 years ago, the population of the state of California was 3 million, and during the 20th century we built lots of beautiful new cities in an area that was previously a desert. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?

(...)

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... disappears
I heard Canada has lot of water...
Yes Canada would be an excellent choice for them. Lots of water Lots of polar bears to hug. The only question is how to convince the bigoted people of CA Nada to let them in.

:lol:

According to the Wikipedia article below, as of 2014, desalination of 1 cubic meter of sea water costs only 40 U.S. cents.
Separately, the same article also reports that if all domestic water consumption in the US were from water desalination, the required electricity requirements can be met by expanding the power grid by only 10 %, which is not difficult if we add more reactors. Newer reactors are much safer and their waste management is better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination
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HAL 10000 wrote:
Doc wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?
by Michael Snyder,

The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do?

100 years ago, the population of the state of California was 3 million, and during the 20th century we built lots of beautiful new cities in an area that was previously a desert. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?

(...)

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... disappears
I heard Canada has lot of water...
Yes Canada would be an excellent choice for them. Lots of water Lots of polar bears to hug. The only question is how to convince the bigoted people of CA Nada to let them in.

:lol:

According to the Wikipedia article below, as of 2014, desalination of 1 cubic meter of sea water costs only 40 U.S. cents.
Separately, the same article also reports that if all domestic water consumption in the US were from water desalination, the required electricity requirements can be met by expanding the power grid by only 10 %, which is not difficult if we add more reactors. Newer reactors are much safer and their waste management is better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination
I have long believed that would be the answer to fresh water shortage. But I have a question: would brine disposal be a problem?
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Endovelico wrote:
HAL 10000 wrote:
Doc wrote:
Endovelico wrote:
How Many People Will Have To Migrate Out Of California When All The Water Disappears?
by Michael Snyder,

The drought in California is getting a lot worse. As you read this, snowpack levels in the Sierra Nevada mountains are the lowest that have ever been recorded. That means that there won’t be much water for California farmers and California cities once again this year. To make up the difference in recent years, water has been pumped out of the ground like crazy. In fact, California has been losing more than 12 million acre-feet of groundwater a year since 2011, and wells all over the state are going dry. Once the groundwater is all gone, what are people going to do?

100 years ago, the population of the state of California was 3 million, and during the 20th century we built lots of beautiful new cities in an area that was previously a desert. Scientists tell us that the 20th century was the wettest century in 1000 years for that area of the country, but now weather patterns are reverting back to normal. Today, the state of California is turning back into a desert but it now has a population of 38 million people. This is not sustainable in the long-term. So when the water runs out, where are they going to go?

(...)

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/arch ... disappears
I heard Canada has lot of water...
Yes Canada would be an excellent choice for them. Lots of water Lots of polar bears to hug. The only question is how to convince the bigoted people of CA Nada to let them in.

:lol:

According to the Wikipedia article below, as of 2014, desalination of 1 cubic meter of sea water costs only 40 U.S. cents.
Separately, the same article also reports that if all domestic water consumption in the US were from water desalination, the required electricity requirements can be met by expanding the power grid by only 10 %, which is not difficult if we add more reactors. Newer reactors are much safer and their waste management is better.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desalination
I have long believed that would be the answer to fresh water shortage. But I have a question: would brine disposal be a problem?
In the US Water is relatively cheap especially in California since the Fed government subsidies it. The expensive part is waste water treatment. My sewage bills are bigger than the water bill The sewage bill being based on water consumption. 40 cents for 264 gallons of water is cheap but the federal government would not subsidize it. Sea salt is considered to be a higher grade of salt BTW. Supposedly healthier according to some.
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Flow chart of the scientific method of "Global Warming Alarmism" science (as far as I can tell)

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Can anyone think of any improvements to it?
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Reprocess the raw measured observational data until it conforms to expectations.
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"Man made climate change" is the canonical "1st world problem".

The rest of the planet could not care less

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/busin ... pment.html

and is voting with it's feet.
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Typhoon wrote:"Man made climate change" is the canonical "1st world problem".

The rest of the planet could not care less

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/busin ... pment.html

and is voting with it's feet.
People who don't live in the first world, aren't loaded with guilt and self-loathing? :shock: Why not? :(

What religion do they practice? :?

It seems when humans start to realize that they do not live up to the ideals they imagine, the solution often requires the reformation of others.
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Catch the Frack Up...

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Yukon Cornelius wrote:Follow up to the Dyson interview...

Dr. Ken Green: "Deeply Skeptical of current climate models."
Most excellent Thanks for posting it
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Simple Minded wrote:
Typhoon wrote:"Man made climate change" is the canonical "1st world problem".

The rest of the planet could not care less

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/15/busin ... pment.html

and is voting with it's feet.
People who don't live in the first world, aren't loaded with guilt and self-loathing? :shock: Why not? :(

What religion do they practice? :?

It seems when humans start to realize that they do not live up to the ideals they imagine, the solution often requires the reformation of others.
It would be more than a little ironic if US financial hegemony was undone by the insistence of US and their international banks organizations that all development be filtered through the imaginary prism of man-made climate change.
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Maybe all the aluminum in the chemtrails is acting as an anti-perspirant ;)
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Typhoon wrote:
It would be more than a little ironic if US financial hegemony was undone by the insistence of US and their international banks organizations that all development be filtered through the imaginary prism of man-made climate change.
Belief in AGW leading to self flagellation is another religious analogy!

The sins of the fathers will be re-visited upon their suns (I mean the comic kind, not the Japanese kind!) ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4q6eaLn2mY
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Nonc Hilaire wrote:Maybe all the aluminum in the chemtrails is acting as an anti-perspirant ;)
C'mon Nonc. :roll:

Everyone with half a brain, realizes it is the Bilderbergers terra forming the planet for the benefit of the Reptilians. :o

The theory that the Russians are controlling the weather is just NATO/UN/EU propaganda to justify their aggression..... ;)
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Wots a Bilderburger? There are no megarich reptillians controlling finance, mate!

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Nonc Hilaire wrote:Wots a Bilderburger? There are no megarich reptillians controlling finance, mate!

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Nonc,

You are too trusting.

That is obviously a Joo dressed up in a reptilian costume to convince people that the Bilderbergs running everything is a myth.
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Says Mr Green: "computer models never predicted an 18 year temperature pause"

Yes. Except that...

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... There is no such thing as a "18 year temperature pause"...

Gone back to sleep. Nothing new about man-made climate heating... as usual.

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Alexis wrote:
Says Mr Green: "computer models never predicted an 18 year temperature pause"

Yes. Except that...

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... There is no such thing as a "18 year temperature pause"...

Gone back to sleep. Nothing new about man-made climate heating... as usual.

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There indeed has been a halt in temperature rises. Even global warming alarmists have been alarmed about lack of Global Warming.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/e ... uotes.html
From: Kevin Trenberth (US National Center for Atmospheric Research). To: Michael Mann. Oct 12, 2009
"The fact is that we can't account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can't... Our observing system is inadequate"

Prof Trenberth appears to accept a key argument of global warming sceptics - that there is no evidence temperatures have increased over the past 10 years.
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Alexis wrote:
Says Mr Green: "computer models never predicted an 18 year temperature pause"

Yes. Except that...

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... There is no such thing as a "18 year temperature pause"...

Gone back to sleep. Nothing new about man-made climate heating... as usual.

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Oh?

Even a journal as biased as Nature discusses the ‘global-warming hiatus’:

http://www.nature.com/news/climate-chan ... at-1.14525
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